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I tried my gun i used 3 cereal box to 4 for over powder cut with 3/4 inch hole punch. 2 on top of shot. 70 grains 2f powder 1 1/8 0z shot didn't pattern on board but it destroyed a soda can. Even tried just some dried leaves over powder and over shot. Tried round ball .69 for heck of it. Figured if it drops in im good to go. Patched the balls too with a paper sack. Love this gun. Light weight easy to carry.
 
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