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olskool · Nov 4, 2024

here is some Kibler SMR parts i cleaned up and colored today. i completely dissembled the lock and trigger for the process. they are not browned, they are temper bronzed like they would have been done back in the day. i also draw filed the butt plate and trigger guard and got rid of all seams. i

then sanded everything. i also did the barrel the same way and it is color matched. it took me around 10 hours. the gun this is for is one of Jims fancy Ash stock guns in 45, it is the 18th Kibler i have done, it will be living at my house till i am living in Gods house,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Tradbow · Nov 4, 2024

Describe the process of the bronzing

Crow Choker · Nov 4, 2024

They look good. Please explain the 'temper bronze' process if you kindly would. Thank you. CC

Indy Durtdigger · Nov 4, 2024

From some of the underlying colors it looks like you used a heat method. How hot did you go with it if so? Never occurred to me to do that one of these.

stubshaft · Nov 5, 2024

Very nicely done, I can't wait to see the finished product.

ronaldrothb49 · Nov 5, 2024

That is a finish I have not heard of before. I kind of like the color. Would be interested in how you did it.

wiscoaster · Nov 5, 2024

I like the results, too. This is not the same as fire-bluing is it? I'd be interested in learning how it's done. Thanks.

olskool · Nov 5, 2024

there is a couple of ways of doing it, from what i have read browning was not done till latter into the 1800s, but some say as early as the 1790s, so most likely these guns would have been charcoal blued, left in the white, or temper bronzed. either way i like it like this, but temper bronzed is heated to about 400 degrees for one hour. first i wanted it to have an old look with black undertones, so i put on cold blue then buff most of it off, then into the heat, then i quenched them with burnt oil. what makes it look good is the prep work that goes into it. when i was done yesterday my back was hurting! but according to some we are not "building guns" just assembling them. i get it for sure, certainly not a from the scratch-built gun, not even close! but nevertheless a lot of work to make it right, just another level of build i guess,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Black_Feather · Nov 5, 2024

Seriously, really cool looking olskool!

Songwriter · Nov 5, 2024

Really nice looking @olskool . I can see lots of options to heat the parts, but what do you have that's long enuf for that barrel?

olskool · Nov 5, 2024

Songwriter said:
Really nice looking @olskool . I can see lots of options to heat the parts, but what do you have that's long enuf for that barrel?

a Loooooooooong oven,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Tradbow · Nov 5, 2024

olskool said:
a Loooooooooong oven,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Don’t know what you used but I’ve been studying on it sitting in a deer stand this evening. A section of stove pipe, an elbow, a grill thermometer and a propane cooker sitting under the elbow could make a passable oven for long items.

Indy Durtdigger · Nov 5, 2024

The results speak for themselves, and the finish is nice. The only other way I've seen this done was by a blacksmith, he used a brass wire brush to descale his parts on a final heat leaving a similar finish.

Bucolic Buffalo · Nov 6, 2024

I was going to say, that from the color and look, the parts reminded me of rods from an engine that got hot. Hot metal, quenched in used/burnt oil and there you go. I had never heard of it called that. But that look reminds me of so many old guns. That patina. Nice!

Oh, what about the frizzen?

olskool · Nov 6, 2024

the frizzen / hammer, i cold blued the outside and did not heat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

George Andrix · Nov 6, 2024

olskool said:
there is a couple of ways of doing it, from what i have read browning was not done till latter into the 1800s, but some say as early as the 1790s, so most likely these guns would have been charcoal blued, left in the white, or temper bronzed. either way i like it like this, but temper bronzed is heated to about 400 degrees for one hour. first i wanted it to have an old look with black undertones, so i put on cold blue then buff most of it off, then into the heat, then i quenched them with burnt oil. what makes it look good is the prep work that goes into it. when i was done yesterday my back was hurting! but according to some we are not "building guns" just assembling them. i get it for sure, certainly not a from the scratch-built gun, not even close! but nevertheless a lot of work to make it right, just another level of build i guess,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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