Kibler Brown Bess?

fireman1 · Aug 20, 2024

Balance will different also. A shorter gun feels lighter to me.....longer ones hand better in my hands.

Youngblood · Aug 24, 2024

Yes!
Make a Long Land
And 1728 French

These will cover the F&I war and the REV.

And since Kibler will do his homework and make them correctly, they will be the most correct and not need defarb modifications.

smoothshooter · Aug 24, 2024

Ohio Rusty said:
It would be great to have a Brown Bess in 20 gauge. He already has 20 gauge smoothbore barrels for his new smoothbore line. A more effective roundball with less lead to waste.
Ohio Rusty ><>

Like an Officer’s Model?

Flanders · Monday at 11:28 PM

I’m still clinging to hope Mr. Kibler announces he is going to do this kit

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sportster73hp · Tuesday at 9:03 AM

Flanders said:
I’m still clinging to hope Mr. Kibler announces he is going to do this kit.

Jim will get notice when someone posts. Maybe he is still researching.

springfield art · Tuesday at 12:22 PM

Youngblood said:
Yes!
Make a Long Land
And 1728 French

These will cover the F&I war and the REV.

And since Kibler will do his homework and make them correctly, they will be the most correct and not need defarb modifications.

I'm pretty certain he gets a computer alert whenever his business is mentioned: then, he reaches for the Excedrin, as calls for this-musket-that-musket, here a 20 ga. Bess, there a Long Land, look out, now a 1728 French! Let the poor guy do what he does best, which is not getting involved in picky-picky re-enactor stuff! (JMHO: no offence meant!) I re-enacted over ten years, so love 'em all! :thumb:

This comment is made in good humor, don't fire back!

Bark-eater · Tuesday at 1:01 PM

Pattern 1853 Enfield.....

Not to speculate too much on Mr. Kibler's business plan, but there are nut dishes to win...

https://researchpress.uk/marksmanship/lrml/mmlr-in-great-britain/

Flint62Smoothie · Tuesday at 1:02 PM

OMG ... to me this would be THE biggest waste of talent and time for the Kibler operation, LOL!

cebusey · Tuesday at 2:08 PM

Often seen are folks kicking the current reproduction Besses & Charlys to the curb - even the lofty Pedersolis and heavens forbid anyone goes to the Indian suppliers ( That would bring at least a month of comments on the forum) IF Mr. Kibler decided to do such a kit - I have no doubt it would be of the highest quality - that's why at least I would like to get one.

smoothshooter · Tuesday at 2:52 PM

ZUG said:
Here is my thought on this: The majority of people that use a Bess are the new reenactors and they don't care what it truly represents as long as it looks like a Bess and goes boom when the trigger is pulled. If they stay in the "game" for some time, then they will want something that DOES look like a real Bess. These are the people that will want a Kibler or other high-quality Bess. How many of those are out there - who knows? For me I would one as a wall hanger and not cost me an arm or a leg.

The re-enactor is a small sub-group of a larger sub-group of traditional ML enthusiasts whose numbers slowly decrease every year as the older guys age out.
Younger, new members numbers are not keeping up with the older guys giving it up.
That’s my impression, anyway. Hope I am wrong.

French Colonial · Tuesday at 3:07 PM

Flint62Smoothie said:
OMG ... to me this would be THE biggest waste of talent and time for the Kibler operation, LOL!

I am with you, the talent to build a beautiful rifle, wasted on a clunky military musket.

TFoley · Tuesday at 3:29 PM

springfield art said:
That question as to which Model to offer would be a contentious point; re-enactors doing various periods would want their favorite Model!! Maybe choosing a variant that covers the most "mileage" would have to suffice.

I reckon that whatever model was the most common around the time of the Revolutionary War would be the winner. Before that there seems to be little interest, apart from the FIW, and afterwards even less.

sturmkatze · Wednesday at 7:55 AM

Youngblood said:
Yes!
Make a Long Land
And 1728 French

These will cover the F&I war and the REV.

And since Kibler will do his homework and make them correctly, they will be the most correct and not need defarb modifications.

He’s already said a Bess in his video… that would be what sells — not some Schangal gun.

Reno · Wednesday at 11:14 AM

They make a great native gun. Shortened barrel etc.

Buffalorunner · Wednesday at 11:40 AM

Let Jim tweek the processes he is working on now, before he adds more.
He can study the brown bess project as the job allows.
Larry.

Robin101 · Wednesday at 1:54 PM

One thing for sure, if he goes ahead with the project it will be the closest thing to an original that most of us would ever hope to own. Kind of late in the game for me and I haven't really had much interest in military arms of the era, but even so, I would buy one and if he announces a go ahead, I will be at the top of the list.
Robin

Grenadier1758 · Wednesday at 7:50 PM

Bear in mind there are many options and variations of the land pattern muskets that were used. So many that I doubt it would be practical for Jim to develop a CNC manufacturing program for all the variations.

RiverRat · Wednesday at 7:59 PM

I already own a 10g New England Fowler so a Bess would not interest me. However, a hawkin rifle would put me on the order list.

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