I have to rethink the spare cylinder idea

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The assumption ion that because you could remove the cylinder that is what it was for is the issue.

Removable cylinders were there so you could clean the dang gun. Very early on, the side benefit thought wise was to swap them.

So looking at your small guns, those are pocket guns. If you needed more than one cylinders worth of shooting, you would carry a 2nd one. Probably not as those would be last resort guns.

I can see where you took a wrong turn. Its a little known fact that BP fouls a gun yearly really badly. The Arbor or base pin fouls, the cylinder fouls and it all needs to be cleaned up. The Open top was cool because you could remove the whole front barrel and clean it separate.

Scrape the crud out of the hammer area and you are ready for battle the NEXT day.

There is the notion that the Pacific Islanders came up with that if you threw a maiden into a Volcano, you could appease the god or gods causing it to erupt. Many variations on that theme but the Maiden getting pitched into the Volcano is the best visual (unless you are the maiden).

Now me? I opt to throw the old guy in and see. A grateful maiden could be a wonderful thing. Old guys don't have much value so a discerning god might elect to ignroe you.

But, the Volcano quits blowing its top and the old guys (phew) say ah hah. then the next 20 times it does not, but those old guys are bound and determined to get the right combo of maiden to make the Volcano god happy (not sure how smoking a perfecly good working maiden would do that but...)

But, go back to the original premise and you can see where you went wrong.
 
The assumption ion that because you could remove the cylinder that is what it was for is the issue.

Removable cylinders were there so you could clean the dang gun. Very early on, the side benefit thought wise was to swap them.

So looking at your small guns, those are pocket guns. If you needed more than one cylinders worth of shooting, you would carry a 2nd one. Probably not as those would be last resort guns.


You realize thinking that making cylinders easier to remove was only to aid in cleaning is also an assumption right?

Pretty sure it's one that's already been disproved. The very first revolvers included small pocket guns, and they came with a spare cylinder so they could be more quickly reloaded.

Then there is that New York times article I posted a while back extolling the virtues of cylinder swapping. Then there's the Beals patent Remington, and then the old model Remington. I think making the argument that the change from Beals to Old Model (which shaved a few seconds off of swap time) was solely to make cleaning faster is a little silly.

So yeah, no need to involve maidens and volcanoes when there's plenty of actual evidence from multiple sources.
 
The assumption ion that because you could remove the cylinder that is what it was for is the issue.

Removable cylinders were there so you could clean the dang gun. Very early on, the side benefit thought wise was to swap them.

So looking at your small guns, those are pocket guns. If you needed more than one cylinders worth of shooting, you would carry a 2nd one. Probably not as those would be last resort guns.

I can see where you took a wrong turn. Its a little known fact that BP fouls a gun yearly really badly. The Arbor or base pin fouls, the cylinder fouls and it all needs to be cleaned up. The Open top was cool because you could remove the whole front barrel and clean it separate.

Scrape the crud out of the hammer area and you are ready for battle the NEXT day.

There is the notion that the Pacific Islanders came up with that if you threw a maiden into a Volcano, you could appease the god or gods causing it to erupt. Many variations on that theme but the Maiden getting pitched into the Volcano is the best visual (unless you are the maiden).

Now me? I opt to throw the old guy in and see. A grateful maiden could be a wonderful thing. Old guys don't have much value so a discerning god might elect to ignroe you.

But, the Volcano quits blowing its top and the old guys (phew) say ah hah. then the next 20 times it does not, but those old guys are bound and determined to get the right combo of maiden to make the Volcano god happy (not sure how smoking a perfecly good working maiden would do that but...)

But, go back to the original premise and you can see where you went wrong.
Drunk posting?
 
I can shoot and swap 4 cylinders without cleaning at a canter,bareback.
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Maybe you guys should actually give it a try before deciding its just not possible.
 
Problem that I see is not the swapping of cylinders at a canter or full gallop, but being able to actually ride at that gait using no hands. I know I can't do that anymore.
 
You realize thinking that making cylinders easier to remove was only to aid in cleaning is also an assumption right?

Nope, we know its one function for sure. The Arbor or Pin has to be cleaned. You have to get to the back of where the cylinder rotates.

Speculate away on swapping cylinders. We know it was a thought originally that did not take hold. Carrying a couple of pistols on a horse was found to be effective. That is why the 47 Walker was issued in pairs.

Advertisements are not anything more than someone spinning things. I have a Bridge in Brooklyn I would be happy to sell someone if they think otherwise.

Its not that it was not done at all, it was not widespread.
 
They probably sent the spare cylinder in case the original one blew up. The Walkers were prone to that apparently. I have heard that it may have been caused by loading the picket type bullet upside down.
 
They probably sent the spare cylinder in case the original one blew up. The Walkers were prone to that apparently. I have heard that it may have been caused by loading the picket type bullet upside down.
The issues of blown up cylinders did not come up until they were in the field and being used. There is no way that Colt would know that for the initial shipments.
 
They probably sent the spare cylinder in case the original one blew up.

That is where the devil is in the details. Until it was in service they would not have know about the kaboom issue.

So if it was before or early, then maybe that aspect of figuring out the best tactical application and use.

Sort of the un-escorted bombers in WWII. Ok, bad idea. Escorted bomber, multiple, benefits. One you get through and blow important stuff up. Two the Germans had to react and you got to shoot most of their fighter stuff down and kill their experienced pilots. The more you did that the better off the bombers were. Soon you have Air Supremacy.

Once the field results came in, carry more guns (and Walkers were issued in pairs so they got that part right)

I do find it implausible that you are going to swap a cylinder while the other guy sticks you with a spear. Best use is to throw the cylinder at the guy. As heavy as those were, it would do some damage!
 
New member with a pair of Pietta 1858s, one a 2024 (for the wife) and the other date code BS (mine). Have a spare cylinder for each. Might get a couple more. Load up before range trip (less caps) shoot em up, take a break, load em up again. Won't be horseback riding with them though :)
Shoot some rifle stuff to make a day out of it.
I found 21 pages with the back and forth somewhat educational.
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Why would anyone carry spare cylinders when they have a repeating carbine but for a old movie? Head em out move em out spare cylinders...raw myths..
 
Why would anyone carry spare cylinders when they have a repeating carbine but for a old movie? Head em out move em out spare cylinders...raw myths..
If someone made a modern revolver that could swap cylinders as fast as I can with my Remington Old Model Navy, I'd certainly carry one.

Faster than moonclips or a speedloader for me.
 


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