NEW Italian-made SNAPHAUNCE coming to the market (& hopefully the US) soon!

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Flint62Smoothie said:
I already offered to buy - pre-production - either a complete one or one without the barrel (then it is not a 'gun' per Italian export laws). Where I told them I'd test it out and report on it. Also may the same venture to Dixie.

Looking at their proposed 'cock stop', I've yet to find one similar, but just got a book (in Italian) that lists all the know gun makers from 1500s to the end of the BP era, that has sample pictures, so I'm hoping to see more examples where it wasn't a 'big block' further down on the lockplate, like on early Dutch or Ottoman arms.

I will admit that their proposed pan looks more wheellock-like than later flintlock-like, which kind of makes sense, being that the barrel and stock was re-purposed to snaphaunce ignition by replacing the wheellock mechanism. If I get one, I plan to BUBBA the lockplate to make the lockplate look like a previously used wheelie lockplate, complete with the center axle hole, but converted to be a snappy, lol!
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Oh such sceems, all very interesting. ' bubba interpretation's' ! wow there's true emagination at work .I thought I was the' left field' sort re such things but Ime not in the hunt ! . I took a wheel lock lock to India in the 70s but that was a bridge too far but now we have the joyous dawn of even more enterprise " If weird locks be the food of love ' file on give me excess of it".(Some bloke called Shakespeare said something like that but he was just a penny a page scribbler ,Not a gun smith .) My nonsense aside this is very interesting reading .
Regards all strength to your metaphoric bow Rudyard
 
Flintsmoothie, if you have any contact with the company making the snaphaunce , please tell them about a potential market for a Miquelet musket and pistol. Thanks!
 
Interesting. "There will be two distinct types of this weapon available: one with a shoulder-stock and the other with a cheek-stock."
They have 2 different matchlocks also.


From CapandBall's FB page:
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We are finally pleased to present the first shots of our 𝐧𝐞𝐰 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐥, an Italian snaphance (with flintlock 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑎 𝐹𝑖𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑎) arquebus with Brescian design (1630-1680).
This gun is an exact replica of a Brescian arquebus with an Italian snaphance (with flintlock 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑎 𝐹𝑖𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑎) mechanism. It dates back to 1640 circa and is preserved at the Luigi Marzoli Museum in Brescia.
The lock plate still retains the shape of the earlier wheellock plates, bearing witness to the gradual transition from this older system to flintlocks, which took place in the Brescian manufacturing district between the second and third quarters of the 17th century. The stock, with a six faceted cross-section, is characteristic of 17th-century Brescian production.
There will be two distinct types of this weapon available: one with a shoulder-stock and the other with a cheek-stock.
Are you curious to admire a full photo of the piece? Or to see how many sparks the flintokes makes? Follow us, in the coming days we will show you all these things!
The piece will also be on display at our stand at the IWA trade fair in Nuremberg (27 February - 2 March).
 
deGheyn said:
Interesting. "There will be two distinct types of this weapon available: one with a shoulder-stock and the other with a cheek-stock."
They have 2 different matchlocks also.


From CapandBall's FB page:
🇬🇧
We are finally pleased to present the first shots of our 𝐧𝐞𝐰 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐥, an Italian snaphance (with flintlock 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑎 𝐹𝑖𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑎) arquebus with Brescian design (1630-1680).
This gun is an exact replica of a Brescian arquebus with an Italian snaphance (with flintlock 𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑎 𝐹𝑖𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑎) mechanism. It dates back to 1640 circa and is preserved at the Luigi Marzoli Museum in Brescia.
The lock plate still retains the shape of the earlier wheellock plates, bearing witness to the gradual transition from this older system to flintlocks, which took place in the Brescian manufacturing district between the second and third quarters of the 17th century. The stock, with a six faceted cross-section, is characteristic of 17th-century Brescian production.
There will be two distinct types of this weapon available: one with a shoulder-stock and the other with a cheek-stock.
Are you curious to admire a full photo of the piece? Or to see how many sparks the flintokes makes? Follow us, in the coming days we will show you all these things!
The piece will also be on display at our stand at the IWA trade fair in Nuremberg (27 February - 2 March).
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Never thought the' New way Backward's would come about but it seems to be the case now All Good. Regards Rudyards view
 
That photo of the Brescian snaphaunce is a sibling to the 17th c. Brescian wheellock that Brian Anderson made for me. It has a Bolek lock.

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Here's the photo of the original, which had a cheek stock.

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The style of stock and lock plate are distinct.
 
Sam squanch said:
Did you see the matchlock petronel behind them?!?!
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Yes, more pictures and video of that in my other new post, but there's a debate going on about it, as neither Dr. X from Cap&Ball or Federico from Brixia (who claims to be copying an original) are calling it a Petronel. They both claim it to be a later 'Spanish influenced' and transitional stock (not fired from either the chest (or in front of) or from the shoulder, and with a stock curve not a deeply swept as a true Petronel. But unfortunately the one guy who could set us all stright ... is dead.
 
The Spanish influenced stock they're copying is typical of the late 16thc. Used on both sides of the Armada Campaign as well as the typical conquistador arm. Seems to be transitional from the true petronel, or maybe just different names for the same rose. They are referred to as "spanish arquebus" in George Moeller's American Military Shoulder Arms, Vol. I.
One has been on my wish list for a while. I was looking at one from Old Guard Manufacture, but this may be another option.

By the way, be aware that the Brixia pieces come complete with a GIANT billboard on the barrel.
 

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Flint62Smoothie said:
You sure could IMHO, and I have an original Bescian wheellock lock of a lockplate shape that looks pretty much identical, less the shape of the rear finial.

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After seeing Canute Rex's wheellock, I think someone needs to meet the aftermarket NEED for one to fit the Brixia piece. Or maybe they could be talked into it.
 
deGheyn said:
The Spanish influenced stock they're copying is typical of the late 16thc. Used on both sides of the Armada Campaign as well as the typical conquistador arm. Seems to be transitional from the true petronel, or maybe just different names for the same rose. They are referred to as "spanish arquebus" in George Moeller's American Military Shoulder Arms, Vol. I.
One has been on my wish list for a while. I was looking at one from Old Guard Manufacture, but this may be another option.

By the way, be aware that the Brixia pieces come complete with a GIANT billboard on the barrel.
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I’ve also seen that reference calling them a Spanish style (which confusingly, I’ve also seen referenced for fishtails) but from what I’ve read/researched, 16th century military firearms that were actually produced in Spain are extremely rare. Even many of the famous “Spanish” guns in the royal collections are made by German gunsmiths. They controlled multiple arms producing regions of Europe, such as the Low Countries and parts of Italy, so I wonder if they dictated the gunmaking styles in these regions or if they simply adopted local styles.
 
FYI, I have asked Paulo what the projected co$ts will be for both their Snaphaunce and Petronel, but he hasn't replied yet.

Their Petronel replica is released and is being sold in the Spanish market right now!
 


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