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Goon strikes again
Thank you sir!!! I was gonna ask if you had any targets ! 😉 Mike -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
I've had '51 RM's in the shop with headspace issues as well as '72 OT's with the same problem. I'm pretty sure a common thread was that they all had loose arbors. The '72's from Cimarron were probably treated per Cimarron's instructions which say to tighten the wedge screw and back the wedge... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
That might be better for a truly LOOSE arbor but even BETTER might be to turn a new arbor, build up the shoulder and re cut, . . . there's several ways to accomplish the desired result. There's also "how far do you go" with no truly better result? Not to mention a time element as well as... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Could be that "sequence" may alleviate any alignment "problems" that could arise or occur. When reinstalling an arbor I typically upset the shoulder in 4 places. The arbor is then HEAVILY torqued in place. One can use the pin hole as a "witness mark" and I typically "sneak up" on the mark... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Didn't notice. I was just a shooter back then. Oh, the arbor end was still there. Your Walker should be fine since you fixed it. There's a pic of an 1860 barrel going down range at a Cowboy Match a few years ago. It made the rounds for a while and was a good topic for the "thumb pressure"... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Who knows? Tell um!! Funny thing is, it's not a "bad dream" it's just too much "faith" in an Italian company that makes reproductions of an American item along with folks that don't want to accept that their products aren't "exact" reproductions! Then if anyone points out any problem with... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Ummmmm. . . . 60gr charges, a revolver with a short arbor, . . . Mike -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Yeah, that's a prerequisite for a "Revolver". Yeah apparently, but upsetting the shoulder has worked fine for me thus far. I've successfully been able to get +p ammo down range with absolutely no problem at all. Shooting +p ammo IS "thinking outside the box"! Mike -
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Trying to understand this “short arbor” on Uberti revolvers
Hey Dicky, he meant the "pan head screw" head that I use as a spacer. It gets confusing sometimes . . . I know . . . 😁. Mike -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Just for S's and Giggles, here is me shooting the very Walker I've been talking about!! Yes, that's a Remington on my left. This would be about 1986! ( notice the cool "Members Only" jacket!!! 😎). Mike -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Well, you'd think so but let's see how this plays out . . . If the wedge is in tight ( like it's supposed to be), the cylinder won't turn (arbor is short). Answer- back the wedge out some - now cylinder moves! Problem solved? NO, new Problem exists. The wedge is now loose . . . which... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
So that it won't get loose . Just the fact that the wedge is inserted in the assembly would keep the arbor from backing out of the frame. Mike -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
I'm pretty sure I recently told the story of my Walkers barrel going down range . . . because the wedge worked its way out . . . Do you really think a loose arbor (which would allow the wedge to be loose from shot to shot ) wouldn't lead to bad things? You've got your Walker, maybe... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
If it didn't matter, why install a staking pin? Incredible Mike -
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Trying to understand this “short arbor” on Uberti revolvers
There's really no "debate" . . . the manufacturers instructions say what to do. Folks "knowing better" than the designers ( because they're "smarter") can ignore the instructions and do as they please. Of course if you bring up the "problem" and the easy fix for it, you're wrong and... -
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Trying to understand this “short arbor” on Uberti revolvers
Colts ( the original designer and producer of the revolvers being discussed here ) very on instructions don't say anything close to "set the wedge - "finger tight" , " with thumb pressure", "however you feel", "what you think is best" . . . it says to "drive the wedge in" . . . also... -
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Trying to understand this “short arbor” on Uberti revolvers
M. De Land doesn't know what he's talking about here and apparently STILL is lacking in the understanding of the design. I've done exactly this setup for at least 1500 open-top revolvers over the years and there hasn't been one failure. Many of these are Walkers and Dragoons that see full... -
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Uberti deceiving arbor fit
Your thinking is wrong. You can't be serious that a loose arbor isn't detrimental to the revolver AND accuracy!! You should have left your Walker alone . . . Mike -
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Uberti revolvers tuning
But I will say, as long as the "fix" (a single spacer fitted how ever . . . ( shim stacks are never a good idea!!)) is a GOOD fix, the wedge should also be good for the duration. The arbor will stay the same length, the spacer will retain its thickness* so the endshake/gap will remain... -
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Trying to understand this “short arbor” on Uberti revolvers
Dang!!!! I was with ya till I got to the "1885 highwall" . . . didn’t know they had an arbor!!!!! Sure, the revolvers can run fine out of the box ( That just points to genius/ linear design) but they'll run better for longer if built like they were designed (rather than "get it out...