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  1. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    Sorry guys, I don't remember where I came across that info but I disagree with both of you. It's not as simple as the greater the mass or velocity, the better. The drag and aerodynamic pressures that negatively affect accuracy are influenced by the geometric shape and velocity, and generally...
  2. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    I forget where I read that the most ballistically efficient round ball size is somewhere around .45 cal. As the diameter gets bigger from there, the aerodynamics worsen and I don't believe it is a linear relationship. This stands to reason in terms of "vortex shedding" or the turbulence...
  3. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    Stands to reason. Thanks.
  4. Onojutta

    Black Powder TV

    Check your barrel manufacturer's specs for powder grain size and max load. My first rock lock was a Lyman Trade Rifle in .50 and I only ever used FFF based on a load suggested by the guy who got me into BP shooting and who also owned a Lyman. Like most of us, it only took one shot to get me...
  5. Onojutta

    Patch Lubes

    I've found that gives me the most consistent groups. With Ballistol and water, it's not just the ratio, but how "wet" the patches are. I have found the more dry, the better. I soak strips of pillow ticking in the 6:1 mixture, wring them out as much as possible, then lay them in a pan to dry...
  6. Onojutta

    Chambers English vs New England Fowlers

    Dave, as to your first statement highlighted above, would that include even the 46" barrel bored out to 10 gauge that Chambers would supply? I prefer light as possible and my line of thinking was that if the overall weight of the gun was somewhere around 7.5-8 lbs, that would still be on the...
  7. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    I've been hearing a lot lately that 20 gauge/bore (.62 caliber) was the most common size back then but I am going to challenge that premise a bit. Almost all of the British Fowlers in Grinslades book are > .70 caliber. Same of the Club Butts and Hudson Valleys. Some of the NE Fowlers are a...
  8. Onojutta

    Misaligned percussion hammer - can this be fixed?

    Thanks for all the replies. It looks like a big difference to make up with a bend, so I would likely replace both hammers so they match. Seller wants $300 which I think is a good price for an original 1870s Hollis but it needs some stock work and a new ramrod also.
  9. Onojutta

    Chambers English vs New England Fowlers

    Yes, that is precisely the dilemma. I have Grinslade's book, as well as some other reference material, and have read dave's fantastic tutorials over at ALR. If I were building the gun from a blank I would indeed build it to specifications different from what is available with the Chambers...
  10. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    Makes a lot of sense. However, I am reminded of the fact that for two centuries, our ancestors harvested wild turkeys with cylinder bore guns. Were they using larger caliber bores, or were they more capable of getting closer to their quarry? :ThankYou:
  11. Onojutta

    Chambers English vs New England Fowlers

    After planning on it for a long time, I was just about ready to order a Pennsylvania Fowler kit from Chambers for this winter until I decided that I wanted a fowler that had a little less in common with my last build which was a Lancaster rifle. That left me with the English Fowler/Officer's...
  12. Onojutta

    Misaligned percussion hammer - can this be fixed?

    Thanks all, now that I look closely at the picture, it does appear that the hammers are different. I have no idea why someone would put the wrong hammer on it, other than perhaps it was missing altogether and they threw one on just to get it sold. 🤔
  13. Onojutta

    Misaligned percussion hammer - can this be fixed?

    I have an opportunity to buy this 10 gauge percussion "fixer upper" shotgun for a pretty good price. One of the hammers is misaligned, as shown in the picture. Any idea if this might be a simple fix? I do not have access to the gun to take apart the lock or do any further examination, just...
  14. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    So have any of you guys taken turkey with a 20 bore/gauge with no choke?
  15. Onojutta

    Hunting with 10 gauge

    I have the opportunity to buy a 10 bore (gauge) original nineteenth century BP muzzleloading shotgun for a very fair price. I don't buy guns I don't intend to use, so my question is, how does 10 bore do with small game and upland birds? I have always thought of 10 gauge as meant for "coach...
  16. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    Why is that?
  17. Onojutta

    What wood for Chambers PA Fowler stock?

    The right reference materials are a must have for sure, but there is no substitute for the advice and perspective from some of the guys on this forum, like dave_person.
  18. Onojutta

    Trap Gun

    Do you any of you fellas who shoot trap with muzzleloaders do so along with guys using modern shotguns? If so, does your reloading process flow with the tempo, or is it poor etiquette to make others wait while you reload?
  19. Onojutta

    20 vs. 12 gauge for hunting

    Thanks for all the replies. Here are my takeaways: 20 gauge might be the better choice for a fowler intended to serve as an all-purpose hunting gun shooting both round ball and shot. (Not really mentioned in this thread but it has been demonstrated that round balls in flight become less...
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