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  1. oreclan

    Kibler Fowler Update

    In the book Thundersticks the author mentions that the native Americans thought the serpent/ dragon side plate represented the water serpent in their culture which balanced the Thunderbird of the sky demonstrated in the roar of the gun (Thundersticks).
  2. oreclan

    Kibler Fowler Update

    True but the book contains an entire chapter on British -Style fowlers . There are 23 fowlers that can be used as references for a Kibler Fowler build not counting the New England styles. British design and influence on American gunsmiths did not stop at the Atlantic Ocean's shore.
  3. oreclan

    Kibler Fowler Update

    The same lock as on the Colonial and Woodsrunner would be appropriate as they are early English style flintlocks. The planned Hawken rifle will require a new lock .
  4. oreclan

    Kibler Fowler Update

    Well I own two Colonials (.54 & .58 cal.) and a .54 cal. Woodsrunner. Now I'm saving for a Kibler Fowler, probably in 16 g and either walnut or cherry. The carving and furniture look great, however I was looking for the "flying dragon" sideplate on the Richard Wilson of London Fowler in the book...
  5. oreclan

    Kibler side effect?

    What IS a "Pennsylvania style" rifle in your opinion? There were many gunsmith schools in Pennsylvania over the 18th and 19th centuries. I personally like the early Christian Springs , Lancaster, and later Bedford styles. But I also like Virginia styles as well. Kibler rifle kits can also be...
  6. oreclan

    Kibler side effect?

    Kibler longrifles offers flintlocks , parts, and supplies that you can order . Supply your own rifle blank and you can scratch build your own work of art. There is no reason you have to buy a CNC stock, if you don't want to.
  7. oreclan

    Kibler side effect?

    Not so. Jim is an artist, craftsman, engineer, and businessman and family man. All are important parts of the same individual. You should visit his place of business and see how it is growing. He is providing jobs for over a score of people while providing quality kits and parts for our hobby...
  8. oreclan

    G Gedney Godwin ?

    I would only buy from Godwin, if he were at an event and you could take the item with you. I did so at Cowpens several years ago. I am quite happy with that round hat. Later I ordered a bayonet scabbard and some fittings. It took all Summer to receive them.
  9. oreclan

    Kibler side effect?

    My brother was an engineer and professor who among other subjects lectured on CNC equipment. We were in fact talking about you and your operation last night. I own three of your muzzleloaders and although he is an avid gun collector he hasn't caught the bug as of yet, buy I am working on him...
  10. oreclan

    My first attempt at Rococo

    In the late 70s I built a Reading school rifle in cherry. I was anxious to get it done for reenacting so I inlet the square tang. Seeing my mistake I inlet a small piece of cherry into the tang area. The barrel tang should have ended in a "thumb nail." So I filed the tang end and inlet it in to...
  11. oreclan

    Powder and mice?

    No all of mine are stored in metal cans, or a metal cartridge box.
  12. oreclan

    Pedersoli Availability?

    I own an original late 18th Century plain Jaeger rifle of .63 caliber and I did own a Pedersoli Jaeger. There was a completely different feel to them.
  13. oreclan

    Stuck

    If you are looking for historically correct jags try an iron worm with tow wrapped around it for cleaning. Or you can tie a length of hemp cordage around some wet tow and push it down the barrel with your wiping stick, then pull it back out and repeat. Either was used in lieu of jags for cleaning.
  14. oreclan

    New Member from Southeastern Ohio!

    You have a treasure. I wish I had a carbine or sword from my Great grandfather, Henry Kifer, who was a Sgt. in the Union cavalry. Welcome from South Western Pennsylvania.
  15. oreclan

    Issues with flintlock

    I bought a returned Miroku Brown Bess flintlock kit from Log Cabin Sport Shop in 1975. I really liked it and only sold it in about 1985 after I acquired a British Long Land musket made for me by Jim Everett. I have since brought and sold a Pedersoli Bess, but I would rebuy the Miroku, if I...
  16. oreclan

    Spanish trade guns?

    The French and Indian War or the Seven Years War as it was known in Europe was from 1754 to 1763. Yeh that includes Pontiac's War
  17. oreclan

    A rifle that needs swabbed after every shot on a woodswalk??

    Make a small market wallet or slit pouch to carry over your belt for your patches.
  18. oreclan

    Hand built vs production

    Congratulations on the acquisition! Go out and buy a "production" flintlock and learn to shoot it. In the time it took for this thread to play out, you could have ordered a Woodsrunner quick kit from Jim Kibler, assembled it and learned to shoot it! Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving!
  19. oreclan

    Hand built vs production

    And dangerous!
  20. oreclan

    Kibler's Hunting Pouch

    And also buy a copy of the book Recreating the 18th Century Hunting Pouch by T. C. Albert.
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