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I'm pretty sure Txflycaster is kidding, although I can't tell what the joke is.

Hey now, I watch that show every week. I'm watching it right now. They have more proof that a scrap of leather was a shoe from an explorer pre-1492 than this thread does for Goex being sold.

1150 fps is pretty common for a 12 gauge muzzleloader. It all varies based on your powder, load, wadding, etc. Generally a muzzleloading shotgun operates in the 900-1250 fps area. A modern shotgun generally in the 1100-1350 fps area. I'm certain you can make a muzzleloader shoot faster, and you...

It looks like @William Schenck did post here about 2 hours before Shanghai Jack did on Castboolits. I guess we get to play the game of who's who for which started this rumor, and why?

Why do people start these rumors? @William Schenck, are you just going off of the rumor from CastBoolits?

The pattern you want is completely depending on what you are hunting. Since you are shooting 1 1/4 oz of #5, I'm going to assume you are hunting upland game like pheasant. I'm no expert on pheasant, but being about the same size as a mallard, I do know quite a bit about hunting those. The...

Not only that, if any scrapes were detrimental, then universally plastic wads which would 100% stop that would pattern better. I've been reloading shotgun shells for about 15-17 years (I forget exactly), and shooting muzzleloading shotguns since 2013, and I have yet to prove plastic wads pattern...

The problem with their assessment is that you can not tell what or why pellets deform. It isn't possible. You can find recovered shot that is deformed, but you have absolutely no way to prove it was setback, the barrel walls, choke, or the target. Same as you, everyone that has done pattern...

No, I'm verklempt over the fact that you are flat out denying what is smacking you right in the face, can't even answer a yes or no question. I'm done here. I've had arguments with 5 year olds that made more sense than this. I'm leaving now to go on a hunting trip. Maybe when I get back you will...

Is the cylinder bore shot string longer than the full choke shot string? Yes or no!

You've gotta be kidding me. The shot string of the full choke is shorter than the shot string of the cylinder bore, plain as night and day, and that's at 18 feet. The "bulk" of the shot from the full choke is half the length of the bulk of the shot from the cylinder bore. You guys are acting...

I'm not bashing Britsmoothy, I like the guy a lot. The worst part is he is just like me, stubborn as a mule. He has valid views on how to shoot a muzzleloader. I don't think it's wrong that he doesn't use cushion wads, I don't use them either. I don't use 4Fg powder, but he is correct in that it...

Yes, there's tons of evidence, and I've given you multiple sources before. A good one is Shotgunning by Bob Brister. The following picture was taken by Ed Lowry of Olin-Winchester I don't know how many decades ago. A full choke creates a longer cloud to begin with, but you can see that by only...

The amazing thing is you can provide chronograph, pressure testing, and highspeed footage, and most still won't even give it a second thought.

Yes. I've done a fair amount, and posted some of them on this forum.

No, choke does not increase shot string, it does the opposite. A full choke produces a shorter shot string than a cylinder bore. No, a smaller cylinder bore does not approximate a choked larger bore for patterns. While a smaller bore with an identical load will produce higher pressures, it...

I'm pretty sure a fowler is a shotgun, why else would it be called a fowler? Anything can be choked if you really want. With bismuth you definitely need more shot than powder by a wide margin. The old 1:1 rules do not apply to anything but lead. I'm unsure of what your velocity was, but...

The only generalization I'm making is that shotgun barrels were thinner before choke tubes. It is an overgeneralization, but not that far from reality. I gave some examples of meat and potatoes guns that anybody could buy. Before choke tubes, these had barrels as thin as choke tubes are today...

@Wildrangeringreen, the only question I am trying to answer is why did shotgun barrels become thicker in the past few decades. The answer I have given is correct. It doesn't matter the gauge, but I pick 12 gauge since it is most common, old shotguns used to be as thin, or thinner at the muzzle...

That's completely untrue. I just measured a few choke tubes, Truchoke is the thinnest at ..795" OD, and Remchoke thickest at close to .818". Mike Orlen will thread for chokes, and he requires a minimum of .855" OD, and even then, he recommends Truchoke at that thickness. So he suggests .030"...