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  1. J

    Georgia members

    9/7 shoot at muscogee long rifles down in tataula about 20 minutes north of columbus. See the flyer top of this page. They got web and facebook. They shoot monthly.....nice folks nice setup.
  2. J

    Kibler side effect?

    One of the major selling points of a kibler kit is the ease of assembly. Congrats to Jim for creating this. So the first time assembler builder gets the pride of saying I built this and finished it and cross it off a bucket list. Of course there are builders out there for a price who will...
  3. J

    Kibler side effect?

    The title of the thread is the kibler effect. As I have stated several times, quality builders gone, guys can assemble rifles now that could not previously. With the quality builders going away lefty rifles going away and he has not replaced that market and has no plans to. His choice. Never...
  4. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Different equipment, different business model. I have asked several custom builders about building me a lefty at the Freindship national shoot. One said he did not build them as his shop was not set up to build them. This is a true custom rifle maker. Hand made one of a kind maker. Each is...
  5. J

    What Muzzleloading Stuff Did You Do Today?

    Got told I needed to leave a range yesterday by the RSO because my smoke was bothering the other shooters. I was taught a RSO is never wrong so I left. Will complain to the board next month but not looking good as they pretty much support the RSO always.
  6. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Probably so since it meant a possible death sentence by burning or stoning for having one let alone making one to use. A minimum probably was a severe beating and banishment from the community. Kinda like being a lefty on this site. Shunned.
  7. J

    Kibler side effect?

    One on every double barrel shotgun made.
  8. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Tried twice, failed, commissioned a builder who now is no longer taking work. Simple. See my other reply.....
  9. J

    Kibler side effect?

    The title of this thread is the kibler side effect. As I stated I believe on the first page is the hobby builders that would guide me, build me a lefty firearm are going away as their market is drying up. I suck at building a gun and have no one in the area to mentor me. Thus for me I would...
  10. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Tried, failed, disappointed in myelf. Not gonna happen. Remaining time of life is to short to create that much frustration in my life. As the right handed arm chair experts say, make due or go away. Welcome to muzzleloading. The world of free opinions that drive folks away from shooting...
  11. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Yep, a lefty thread. How many we got of those? He makes a good product and I wish them all the success with it. Just like catholic school got hit with a sharp edged ruler in this thread. The metal edge of one. You should see all my pm's now that are telling me to leave the forum.
  12. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Do the same math for righties. Another who gives not a hoot. Ever looked at a lefty rifle vs righty? What is the difference? So lefties are karens now? Got it.....live in our world sometime. Oh you could, try driving in England to start.
  13. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Then there is the option that is age old, charge a lefty more......kibler has a fine product, but sadly I will never own one in my lifetime or the ability to build one myself. And most folks could care less.
  14. J

    Kibler side effect?

    That ruler to the back of the hand hurt. They were not gentle nuns and I was 7 years old. And I had to run 20 laps when I asked the basketball coach why he did not tape the right handers hands up.
  15. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Have not done that. Just saying seen businesses gone overnite because someone did not get enough free mustard. It is the world we live in. Seen supreme court cases because a cake was not made to order remember?
  16. J

    Kibler side effect?

    After working over 45 years in retail there is an old saying even before the internet, "1 good review will get you 5 customers, 1 bad review will cost you 50 new customers". The internet can destroy a business virtually overnite. Happens all the time these days. Never look down on a potential...
  17. J

    Kibler side effect?

    I agree as a fellow lefty. Very tired of folks telling me I have to adapt. They need to tape their right hand closed and live a day like we have to. Had nuns and basketball coaches do that to me to force me to be right handed. Stubborn, did not take then and will not now.
  18. J

    Kibler side effect?

    You know your market, i know my market. I have lived it all my life. It is a right handed world. Good luck and hope you many many future successes in your business and life.
  19. J

    Kibler side effect?

    Building a business is a huge challenge of course. You have to factor many things into your model and make survival decisions. That said for firearms the easiest is to build right handed ones because of the potential market. Keep in mind the market is flooded with right handed guns. Jim, you...
  20. J

    Accuracy standard

    Not sure I would go that small. Reason we start, many of us, with a .50 ball vs say a .223. Second most of us shoot open sights, no scope for eyes. I guess my standard would 2 moa. Now talking a bench rest ml, scoped, heavy bench then 1 moa but most do not have that style of muzzy. Just...
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