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Interestingly ( or not) I see that auction gun also has the rear sling button in the same place as mine..

Bingo!. Your link you gave me got me some information. Michael Spöck circa 1780. Similar gun albeit converted to percussion sold here. http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm52.pl?f=NR&c=54974&t=temartic_S_D&db=kat52_S.txt. "The "a" for "from" is used in south-west Germany and Switzerland...

Interesting idea.. it all looks totally untouched. I have seen jaegers exactly this style with both types of trigger guard so it's unclear why, I don't think its just a date issue

Thanks again Ike. One other question. Most of the military versions of this model I have seen have the simpler triggerguard without the inner scroll.. is this a military style? or a date thing ie earlier ones have the more basic triggerguard, later ones like mine? or regional style?

great thanks very much!

I think English might be safer..actually im in the uk, and this gun came from France. Most of the information on jaegers on the internet seems to be based on their use in the early US, hence my post here. Do you think the M.I. S.P. refers to the barrel maker only or the whole gun, thanks ike...

:( I guess that makes finding out who M.I S.P is a lot more difficult. . vielen dank fur deine helfe

thanks ike. what date do you think this is? and the neustat is the austrian neustadt?

thats good enough for me thanks ike, MD werner. looking at other pics the back strap button does seem closer to the triggerguard, wonder why the owner moved it.

i guess that's an idea but I don't think so, these always seem to have the back button so that would be the original. so I,m fairly sure that's the original. why add an extra sling mount?, with a big plate and a threaded hole to take a bolt seems unecessary, I think it has another purpose. It...

that would be great thanks very much. I'd especially like to know who the maker might be MI.SP, the date. what that little steel plate with hole is for, and anything else about it..! ty! I,m also looking for an old ramrod to go with this... if anyone knows where to get one. Not a repro, but...

Hi, can anyone give me any info at all about this rifle I have? on top of barrel MI.SP.A.NEUSTAT, breech has just two simple markings. This is a non-military piece I assume? what date is is? I thought about 1750? any info at all gratefully received as I only know what I have read on the net...