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    James Lakenan "Anatomy of a long rifle half stock"

    I am attempting to download the discovery of this rifle we have been discussing. Its been a fun journey and thanks for your thoughts good and bad! I am glad to be a member and have a very high regard for its members. Thank you 58viktor
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    Thank you- Would a late 1830s-50s have a handmade barrel straight rifling?
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    Leaning towards James Lakenan. The family is not allowing me "at this point" to disclose it's owner. I have to respect this but I am working on them trying to convince them its ok. Native American owned, but the problem I am having is placing it to the Chief or his son. The Chief born 1752...
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    Good info. Phil. I forgot or didn't know that Lakenan and Jake arrived here in St. Louis about the same time. Still a mystery as to the roots and influences of the Hawken rifle. I wonder if there were some local rifles that inspired them as to what was needed for those going west. The Henry...
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    SDSmif- My Ohio Gunsmiths & Allied Tradesmen by Donald A. Hutslar came in today. I went through it not looking at the names at the bottom, just looking at the pictures of the rifles. When I came to page 93 1st volume I said oh **** there it is. Lancaster stock, drum and nipple...half stock. I...
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    My Ohio book will be getting here today. Thank you for your h Mark Herman- With all due respect: my Ohio Gunsmiths & Allied Tradesmen by Donald A. Hutslar came in today. I went through it not looking at the names at the bottom, just looking at the pictures of the rifles. When I came to page 93...
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    WOW DID I EVER FIND AN AWESOME SITE ON KENTUCKY RIFLES!!! A MUST SEE FOR EVERYBODY!!! https://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/1969-B20-Kentucky-Rifle-Silhouettes.pdf
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    Here is a picture I found of a 1810 rifle with flint burn to stock and barrel. The tang is close in style to my rifle. Maybe my lock is not original as some one mentioned.
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    Straight Groove Rifling

    This is a straight rifling barrel. Any idea of age?
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    All due respect this rifle will never have the feel of a big bore "Mountain man." Apples to oranges. This is a light Mountain rifle made for settled areas and sold at Hardware stores supplied by Hawken. Hawken didn't only make Big bore speical order rifles. He had to stay in buisness and made...
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    Grenadier1758- Thank you again. I am a new with these rifles and I love the history that they bring. I do love history but I have been stuck on the World Wars until now... 58viktor Thank you for your patients...
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    Jake Hawken was known to have built a few rifles in Ohio before joining Sam in St. Louis. With all due respect - if thousands of the Generic Half stocks were made where are they all? I have a book on Ohio Gunsmiths and not one looks like this rifle... nor does it have Jake Hawken listed with...
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    Original Hawken question

    Thank you every body. Great forum!! Your passion on these great rifle of history shines!!! These rifles will go to a museum here where I live. I also have another rife that was discovered with this rifle. Both to have been known to have always been together and It is dated 1841. I am under the...
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    1832 Original Hawken light mountain rifle. Opinions welcome please!

    Grenadier1758- Thank you for your knowledge and interest. 58viktor
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    Original Hawken question

    rich pierce- Thanks for your knowledge on the drum and nipple! You taught an old dog a new trick. Are you agreement that Hawken made generic Midwest halfstock rifles? 58Viktor
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    Original Hawken question

    Tom A Hawk Thank you and very interesting. 58Viktor
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    Original Hawken question

    I have to be more clear- Many Hawken rifles were not signed
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