16ga. flint

[Dave K]

Hope you don't mind, now that I learned to post pictures. Here are some pictures of my latest shotgun.It is a 16ga. with 28" twist barrels.

Hopefully the pictures are sized right. Still learning!!!!! I have NO idea why the locks won't come up. They show up in photobucket, but when I transfer them here, they show up as another butt stock. ??????

 

[Mike Brooks]

COOL! :thumbsup: Who built it?

 

[Dave K]

Chuck Lindsey from Ill. built it for me. The barrels are breeched Ithaca Flues barrels and the locks are L&R's Manton's. Actually, quite a bit of work was done to the barrels. The barrels themselves are in excellent shape, but they of course needed breeched and the top rib was not concave as it should be. He milled it as it should be. Chuck was with Fred Lipp, before Fred retired, and they made all the furniture, triggers and also barrels for SxS Ml'ing shotguns.

Go figure, all of a sudden the butt stock in the previous post showed up as locks? Well, here is the butt stock again.

 

[Roy]

:hatsoff: Beautiful gun with great checkering!

 

[Canerod]

Very Nice!! :thumbsup:

Canerod

 

[Wehrmacht]

Beautiful little double!
Tell me about the stock.English walnut? Source?
Do you have any problem with flints in those little L&R Mantons? Any tricks to getting the darn flints set correctly?

I've got a little double that Ed Rayl is presently putting a set of 16ga barrels on.I had it made with 20ga full turkey choke on the left and modified choke on the right.These barrels are darn good for sitting still and shooting turkeys,but way,way too heavy for wing shooting.I did shoot a few pheasants with it out in South Dakota,but it's too heavy for wing shooting quail down here.The 16ga barrels that Ed is making will correct that,I hope! On these new barrels the left side will be cyl bore,and the right side will have about ten thousants choke. I do have a little trouble with getting the flints set correctly in these little dainty Mantons,so any pointers that you have about this will be greatly appreciated :hatsoff:.

Again....Beautiful Piece! Thanks for posting the photos.If I ever learn how,I'll put mine up for review!

 

[Dave K]

Thanks for the compliments. The wood came from Birddog6. It is American Black Walnut. He must have a double barrel planned for this wood. It was wide enough and the grain runs perfect, through the wrist. I was mistaken, when I said Manton, on the locks, they are L&R's Late Engish with goose neck cocks. Yes, these locks were a TEST! I sent them back to L&R and got nowhere. They were smashing flints, had very poor spark and the frizzens would only kick over maybe 25% of the time. But, Chuck knew what the problem was and redid the heal of the frizzens, so that they would properly kick over. They were also a little on the soft side and the left lock broke it's frizzen spring right away. But, after much cussing, the locks work correctly now and provide good spark, easy on flints and so far are reliable.

 

[benvenuto]

superb gun! :grin:

 

[WRussell]

You hope we don't mind?? Great stuff! More! :applause:

 

[Toomuch_36]

Superb weapon!!! Gets me to dreaming and wishing all over again.

Toomuch
..............
Shoot Flint

 

[paulvallandigham]

Beautiful little double!
Tell me about the stock.English walnut? Source?
Do you have any problem with flints in those little L&R Mantons? Any tricks to getting the darn flints set correctly?

I've got a little double that Ed Rayl is presently putting a set of 16ga barrels on.I had it made with 20ga full turkey choke on the left and modified choke on the right.These barrels are darn good for sitting still and shooting turkeys,but way,way too heavy for wing shooting.I did shoot a few pheasants with it out in South Dakota,but it's too heavy for wing shooting quail down here.The 16ga barrels that Ed is making will correct that,I hope! On these new barrels the left side will be cyl bore,and the right side will have about ten thousants choke. I do have a little trouble with getting the flints set correctly in these little dainty Mantons,so any pointers that you have about this will be greatly appreciated :hatsoff:.

Again....Beautiful Piece! Thanks for posting the photos.If I ever learn how,I'll put mine up for review!

First: Wrap those flints in lead, not leather. Then, hold the gun cradles or resting on a bench, while you let the cock go forward until the flint actually touches the face of the frizzen. Square the edges of the flints so that the flint is centered, and square to the face. Tighten the cock screw enough that the flint cannot fall out, or move sideways easily. Then cock the hammer back to the half cock knotch, and holding the flint in place on the sides with our thumb and forefinger, tighten the cockscrew with your other hand, and a screwdriver, or tool. I use an old Hawken shop flinter's tool that has a screwdriver blade on one side, that only sticks out about 1/4 inch. The tool is about 4 inches long, so I have a lot of leverage to tighten that screw against the lead. Don't let the flint move sideways as you tighten the screw. Test it to see that the edge is pointing at the middle or slightly forward of middle of the flashpan when the cock is lowered all the way down, with the frizzen lifted up out of the way. Then cock the gun, close the frizzen, and pull the trigger while holding the gun in front of you so you can look at the side of the lock and see where the sparks actually land. If they are hitting in the center or slightly forward, with a new flint, you are ready to shoot. After about five hammer drops, check that cockscrew and tighten it another 1/8-1/4 turn. That should set the flint for about 30 shots. Then it will have to be moved forward. The flint should strike between 1/3 and 1/2 the diatance up from the bottom of the frizzen when it is closed. The angle of impact should be 55-60 degrees. Set the flint that way, and you should have no need to knapp the flints, as they self knapp each time the gun is fired.

 

[Wehrmacht]

Many thanks for your comments....I'll put this to use immediately when I get the piece back from Ed early in February!

 

[mmahlock]

If you haven't been to the Track of the Wolf, check out their Ammunition & supplies, by caliber link to flints for propoer flint selection.

 

[hawk]

she's a real beauty !! :hatsoff:

 

[Cruzatte]

Oh that is so pretty, I think I'm gonna cry.

Cruzatte

 

[mike alexandre]

Do you have a contact number/address or email for Chuck please

 

[Dave K]

Sure, PM me and I will get it for you. I am never sure how public some guys want to go.