1860 Army?

[pepperbelly]

I may wait to buy a flintlock rifle, especially since I have a TC Hawken caplock rifle.

I have thought about a cap and ball revolver off and on for a while now.
Cabela's has several revolvers. What do ya'll think about the 1860 in .44?
What differences are there in that, the 1851 and the 1858 revolvers as far as their use? I know the 1858 has a top strap, but what are the practical differences? The Walker is more expensive. Is it worth it.
I will avoid a revolver with a brass frame. Is there any others to avoid?
Any suggestions for a good first c&b revolver?

Jim

 

[Hawken12]

I have an 1860 army(euroarms),shes a beauty ,I always liked the lines of this one .,she is a shooter too ,had ta file the backsite down (the hammer)

 

[pepperbelly]

You shot a 12" group- at 25 yards? Is that as accurate as these revolvers can be?

Jim

 

[Rebel]

No, they can be very accurate. My Remington has shot groups around 1 1/2"-2" at 25 yds.

 

[pepperbelly]

Thanks Rebel.

Jim

 

[Wes/Tex]

You'll find the Colt is generally a better fit to the hand. The Remington can hold, give-or-take, about 5 grains more powder and has a top strap. The Colt will shoot about 25 times before the cylinder starts to drag from fouling, the Remington begins to drag after the first 6, due to the way the frame fits against the cylinder face. You'll need to pull the cylinder pin forward after each cylinder full on the Reminton and wipe it and lube it. The Colt has a larger pin with grooves to take lube and the frame to cylinder face is cut back more so the fouling doesn't build up as fast. Actually, it's a toss up. Both a good guns but I've always favored the Colt 1860 due to a better fit to the hand.

 

[Robert an saa fan]

If you are plinking and/or target shooting a .36 cal in Colt 1851/1861 or Remington would be a bit less costly to shoot vs. a .44.

A lot of your choice involves doing what appeals to you and feels right in your hands. If possible, handle as many revolver styles as you can.

The Walker is very heavy, a problem if you plan to carry it much... even the Dragoons get tiresome if you carry one.

My favorite is the Colt 2nd Generation 1851 Navy .36 and has been for over 30 years. However, do have and like quite a few other models including Remingtons.

You might also consider buying a used gun, especially if you are not quite sure yet what you want. The older Remington's have a smaller grip frame and grips than the more recent ones.

For a first revolver it may be best to stick with the common Colt and Remington styles... unless you come across a low price super deal.

Good luck however you decide.

 

[pepperbelly]

Thanks Robert. I will check around for a used revolver, but there aren't many bp rifles or handguns around here for some reason.
I will handle as many as I can before buying. I have a Cabela's very near me so it will be just a question of getting the time.
I imagine many will feel funny to me. I shoot a Springfield Armory Loaded .45acp 1911 government pistol and a Ruger MkII in both action matches like falling plates and bullseye pistol. I am very used to how they feel in my hands. Even dad's Ruger Super Blackhawks feel like the grip is tiny.
A friend inherited his great-grandfather's 1st generation Colt SAA- in about 95% condition or better. It feels small too.

I'll think about the .36 caliber. Most of my shooting will be just for fun, although I wouldn't mind adding cowboy shooting matches if I can find time.


Jim

 

[Dave Rosenthal]

I have a 1860 Army, it's the smallest in my collection. After reading your last post with regards to grip sizes on custom bullseye guns, I'm forced to recommend the larger framed Colts such as the 3rd Model Dragoon or the Walker, both of which I own and have used in competition. The grips on the 1860 are smaller than most. The grips on the Remington 1858 New Model Army are about mid-sized. Grips on the big Colts are the biggest that I've seen.

All of the Colts are natural pointers, whereas the Remington feels to me like it needs to be aimed. Anyone that can handle a .45 good can deal with any BP revolver IMO.

What ever revolver that you decide to get, it won't be your last! The "BUG" will bite hard and you'll have to satisfy the urge to scratch by starting your own collection

And YES the Walker is worth the extra money...I use my "out-of-the-box" Walker in competition. For shooting gongs up to 135 yards, the Walker hasn't been beat! :shocked2:

Have fun and remember that they're like potato chips...you can never have just one :haha: .

Dave

 

[Hawken12]

Yup,with full load,with the 12 Gr ,I shoot 3 inch groups,shoulda said that ,first time

 

[oldwolf]

You might want to check out[url] Arms2armor.com[/url]. They now have some good prices on Cimarron Ubertis at the moment. Maybe you can get a good deal from Carl there.

Just don't buy the last Colt 1860 please! :grin:

 

[rebel727]

I got a 60 COlt from Cabela's, I'm very happy with it. Even if I did give up my Ruger MKII Government to get it. :thumbsup: