36 Cal seneca
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Russ T Frizzen
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The Seneca differs from the Cherokee in having more brass trim--in particular a cap box and nosecap. Mine has a deep blue finish, too. To my knowledge they didn't make a special version but some had very pretty wood. Mine has a bit of flame grain in the butt and is a well finished rifle. It is accurate with both ball and Maxis. While mine is a .45, I'm sure the .36 is every bit as good.
wilded
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Horace, if you do not buy it please let me know the shop and phone as I have been looking for one of these for a long long time. Thanks, Ed 
The Cherokee & Seneca are both well made rifles. T/C used a fast 1-30" bore to stabilize the small balls with light charges. The .32 Cherokee will shoot accurately with as little as 10 grains of FFFg while the .36 Seneca will do similar work with 15 grains of FFFg. Pound of powder will go a LONG way with that kind of use.
arcticap
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Just 6 days ago, 2 auctions ended for a .45 Seneca barrel and a Seneca stock that someone had not used for many years. The items sold for $252.49 & $415.00 respectively to the same individual. If anyone cares to glance, here they are!
http://ebay.doubleclick.net/clk;16965571...uery=7163061822
http://ebay.doubleclick.net/clk;16965571...uery=7163059273
http://ebay.doubleclick.net/clk;16965571...uery=7163061822
http://ebay.doubleclick.net/clk;16965571...uery=7163059273
Russ T Frizzen
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I think that is a good price for a Cherokee. All you lose compared to the Seneca, is a little brass furniture. The accuracy and durability are still there. And if you decide to personalize it, you have a great starting place.
wilded
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If it is a .36 you did well. I have the Cherokee in .32 and it is a great rifle. :thumbsup:
Well guess what, I got bit in the ... Cannot hit the barn, not to mention the barn door. Barrell was rusted badly. that is what I get for no checking it. Can probably get my money back as I bot if from a client. However, I like tha lines of the gun and the o/s is in good shape. What about lining the barrell or a new drop in? Any thoughts other than suicide.
See if you can get your money back. There are a lot of really nice rifles out there for that much, although they are usually not in that caliber.
I've always said I'd never buy a used muzzleloader unless I got it cheap enough to afford replacing the barrel as most I have seen are pitted or ringed.
Still, I also wouldn't be too quick to give up on it. I recently bought a little CVA .32 for the wife for 100 bucks. The bore was so rusted I began scrubbing it with a brush loaded with Naval Jelly rust remover and steel wool, then progressed to less nasty stuff. It was very pitted but still puts five Hornady 0 buck in pilow ticking spit patch under 2" at 50 yards, which is about all I can expect from the sights it came with. You could get lucky. ::
Still, I also wouldn't be too quick to give up on it. I recently bought a little CVA .32 for the wife for 100 bucks. The bore was so rusted I began scrubbing it with a brush loaded with Naval Jelly rust remover and steel wool, then progressed to less nasty stuff. It was very pitted but still puts five Hornady 0 buck in pilow ticking spit patch under 2" at 50 yards, which is about all I can expect from the sights it came with. You could get lucky. ::
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Don't even go there with your thoughts my friend. I've cleaned up many barrels that looked awful and likewise have resurrected enough to make the efforts worthwhile. IF you intend to try to return it, do NOT shoot it--I'm sure you wouldn't do that though... But otherwise if you decide to keep it or can't return it... then take the thing out and shoot it with well lubed but tight fitting balls. Also if you can find some maxis, lube them and use some mild rubbing compound on them and let them help "lap the bore". It may not "clean up" as well as you'd like, but it will greatly improve over what it presently is. It may even shoot well enough for you to keep it.
(About looking inside a small bore)
It is kind of difficult to check a small bore muzzleloader anyway, as they don't make drop in bore lights small enough to fit in anything under about .45 caliber. There is a way around that. Take short lengths (about 1 inch) steel bar stock in appropriate diameters and polish the crap out of one end so it "shines like a mirror". Have a bright light with you and just drop your little mirror done the bore and shine the light in. It's not a perfect method, but it IS good enough to help you decide about the barrel, BEFORE buying the gun. Used to be able to buy a set of these mirrors (they are old!), but I don't know where you could nowadays???
You could get a Green Mt. barrel and replace the offending one that is on the gun now. Yeah, it would raise the cost of the gun considerably, but you'd have a brand new barrel.
I would still try to return the rifle for refund, and make it known that the bore is not in good enough shape for you. Remember do NOT fire it though if you intend to return it...
Shoot Safely and Good Luck!
WV_Hillbilly
(About looking inside a small bore)
It is kind of difficult to check a small bore muzzleloader anyway, as they don't make drop in bore lights small enough to fit in anything under about .45 caliber. There is a way around that. Take short lengths (about 1 inch) steel bar stock in appropriate diameters and polish the crap out of one end so it "shines like a mirror". Have a bright light with you and just drop your little mirror done the bore and shine the light in. It's not a perfect method, but it IS good enough to help you decide about the barrel, BEFORE buying the gun. Used to be able to buy a set of these mirrors (they are old!), but I don't know where you could nowadays???
You could get a Green Mt. barrel and replace the offending one that is on the gun now. Yeah, it would raise the cost of the gun considerably, but you'd have a brand new barrel.
I would still try to return the rifle for refund, and make it known that the bore is not in good enough shape for you. Remember do NOT fire it though if you intend to return it...
Shoot Safely and Good Luck!
WV_Hillbilly
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For a Seneca, I would first try to polish the bore.
You might find that once cleaned up, it drives tacks even with some pitting in the bore.
If for some reason the bore was shot and you did not want to go the replacement barrel route (if you could find one), you could have it re-bored to a 40 or 45 cal.
I would hang on to it or let me know and perhaps we can work a deal.
You might find that once cleaned up, it drives tacks even with some pitting in the bore.
If for some reason the bore was shot and you did not want to go the replacement barrel route (if you could find one), you could have it re-bored to a 40 or 45 cal.
I would hang on to it or let me know and perhaps we can work a deal.
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