A Quick GOEX Update

[SwampBilly]

If you've ever seen the size of the granules in the bagged powder of naval guns, it's easy to see why they use black powder to generate the heat.

Great big grains of cordite if I remember correctly

 

[Cannonman1]

How much BP is used to ignite the charge on a 5 inch gun?? That being considered, where is the US Navy using large quantities of 5 inch shells at this time?? Other than replacing out of date stock possibly or building stocks of ammo, where is the huge demand at this time?? .
Just saying..
I know logistics and supply are complicated but where is the drain?

 

[ETipp]

Good to see many so fed up they won’t buy GoEx when it’s available Q1 2024
Less wait time for the rest of us.
Still unclear when Olde Eynesford will ship, I’m not thrilled with needing another case of Swi$$

Yup, me too. Come Q1 2024 I won't be needing any GOEX because I'll have already stocked up with another brand.

Also, no one near here carries BP anyway. So its just as cheap to order it online, pay the HAZMAT, and stock up on another brand.

 

[smokepolehall]

Just myself here talking, i had 1/2 Lb. of Goex 3 F. In ignorance n needed powder none locally so i bought T7 to tide me over. Since then i have gotten 6 Lbs. of Graf in 3 F at $19 a lb. Its better powder n has faster velocity than Goex. So why would i pay $30 a lb. for Goex & its not even going to be made for us shooters til next year. I will just buy more powder on the shelf n stock up.

 

[Blackpowder77]

My swiss is 28 a pound, schuetzen 23, private label 3f schuetzen 19

 

[Mark E. Prickett]

My swiss is 28 a pound, schuetzen 23, private label 3f schuetzen 19

And how do we reach you? Company name?

 

[springfield art]

The highest price I've paid, is $7.50/lb for Swiss, and I thought that was high!

When was that, just after the Spanish-American War?

 

[Blackpowder77]

And how do we reach travelersantiquesandtrading.com

 

[Blackpowder77]

travelersantiquesandtrading.com

 

[SwampBilly]

Yup, me too. Come Q1 2024 I won't be needing any GOEX because I'll have already stocked up with another brand.

Also, no one near here carries BP anyway. So its just as cheap to order it online, pay the HAZMAT, and stock up on another brand.

Goex.... The new Bud light of black powder.

 

[raylohr1965]

I did see on Indeed jobs they we’re hiring maintenance personnel .

 

[Snooterpup]

Hmmm, let’s see. Uncle Sam was necessarily involved in the “saving” of Goex. Does anyone suppose that just might involve a contract of some sort requiring Goex to fill their orders first?
I’m guessing that might be the case so lighten up guys.
History has taught us time and again, (WWI and WWII), that government need for national defense comes first.
I might add that if Goex went away a certain muddle-minded administration may just ban the importation of explosives. Goodbye to Swiss and Schuetzen if that happens. Then we could all hang our muzzleloaders on the wall for good. Be patient, and hope for the best in all things. For now, get black powder wherever you can. Cheers to Swiss and Schuetzen for filling the gap!
Happy fourth of July to all and in spite of Obummer, our nation is Extraordinary!
Snooterpup

 

[deerstalkert]

travelersantiquesandtrading.com

Great! another place to spend money! nice site sir.

 

[Mad L]

Hmmm, let’s see. Uncle Sam was necessarily involved in the “saving” of Goex. Does anyone suppose that just might involve a contract of some sort requiring Goex to fill their orders first?
I’m guessing that might be the case so lighten up guys.
History has taught us time and again, (WWI and WWII), that government need for national defense comes first.
I might add that if Goex went away a certain muddle-minded administration may just ban the importation of explosives. Goodbye to Swiss and Schuetzen if that happens. Then we could all hang our muzzleloaders on the wall for good. Be patient, and hope for the best in all things. For now, get black powder wherever you can. Cheers to Swiss and Schuetzen for filling the gap!
Happy fourth of July to all and in spite of Obummer, our nation is Extraordinary!
Snooterpup

One of the latest Anti-Gun Bill's currently in the Senate DOES say (and I paraphrase as it's been months since reading it):

No ammunition 50cal and up.
No foriegn made ammo.

I am sure they will attach that to such things as powder and propellants too.

 

[ETipp]

Hmmm, let’s see. Uncle Sam was necessarily involved in the “saving” of Goex. Does anyone suppose that just might involve a contract of some sort requiring Goex to fill their orders first?
I’m guessing that might be the case so lighten up guys.
History has taught us time and again, (WWI and WWII), that government need for national defense comes first.
I might add that if Goex went away a certain muddle-minded administration may just ban the importation of explosives. Goodbye to Swiss and Schuetzen if that happens. Then we could all hang our muzzleloaders on the wall for good. Be patient, and hope for the best in all things. For now, get black powder wherever you can. Cheers to Swiss and Schuetzen for filling the gap!
Happy fourth of July to all and in spite of Obummer, our nation is Extraordinary!
Snooterpup

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but they would have taken care of the government first regardless. Just like some of the ammo companies, it’s the big government orders first. They don’t give two hoots about the little guy. It’s all about the money. I don’t owe GOEX anything. If they don’t want to supply us with their product then I will gladly spend my money elsewhere. I don’t shoot all that much so I’ll stock up enough to last me a life time.

 

[NorthFork]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but they would have taken care of the government first regardless. Just like some of the ammo companies, it’s the big government orders first. They don’t give two hoots about the little guy. It’s all about the money. I don’t owe GOEX anything. If they don’t want to supply us with their product then I will gladly spend my money elsewhere. I don’t shoot all that much so I’ll stock up enough to last me a life time.

I could not agree more. I wish Estes/Goex the best but, their 'little guy' customer base is slipping away quickly.

 

[B P Arn]

It sounds like the little guys are almost ready to start a boycott before the manufacturer even can get product out to the stores.

 

[david w]

There seems to be a lot of bad vibs against Estes on not getting Goex back on line. First, it wasn't their fault Hodgden quit. Estes bought the rights what, about a year after Hodgdon jumped ship? Secondly, there had to be a plethora of equipment upgrades. Add to it, the safety factors that they can produce powder without blowing up seems logical to me. I don't want to get into where government regulations and approvals comes into place.
Personally, I have a bigger beef against Hogden.

 

[NorthFork]

It sounds like the little guys are almost ready to start a boycott before the manufacturer even can get product out to the stores.

There seems to be a lot of bad vibs against Estes on not getting Goex back on line. First, it wasn't their fault Hodgden quit. Estes bought the rights what, about a year after Hodgdon jumped ship? Secondly, there had to be a plethora of equipment upgrades. Add to it, the safety factors that they can produce powder without blowing up seems logical to me. I don't want to get into where government regulations and approvals comes into place.
Personally, I have a bigger beef against Hogden.

I hold no ill will against Estes. Hodgdon should be hanged at sunrise. Nor am I or anyone else calling for a boycott. That said, Estes is loosing future customers by the day. Even if they can only 'dribble' out a few pounds here and there for the 'little guy' it would be worth the effort. Everyday that goes by without Goex being available for sale means someone else bought Swiss/Shuetzen. And likely won't go back to Goex again.

 

[Jim K]

No boycott from me. I was down to about a pound of Goex. I needed powder so I bought some schuetzen. Turns out I like it better. I will try some Goex when they get it out to us. I hope it’s as good as schuetzen and I wish them the best.