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A Tale of Two Little Rifles

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Many years ago now I wanted to build two, three quarter scale flintlock rifles for my then two small daughters. I was buying stock wood and inletting services from Fred Miller back then and contacted him to ask for a piece of excellent maple thick enough to split in half lengthwise so that I could make two nearly matching stocks for the small rifles. He sent me a great blank which I subsequently band-sawed into rough shaped stocks.

Even before that time, some 20 years ago, I had purchased two Douglas barrels in 32 caliber. They were 13/16 inch across the flats. I cut the barrels to a length of 32 inches and then re-machined the octagon to just a little under .695" across the flats. I made breech plugs for the barrels and, somewhere along the way, found some very small butt plate and trigger guard castings that were close enough to use on these rifles.

I was obviously not moving at the speed of light (or even the speed of dark) but I kept thinking about what I might want to do as far as the little rifle design went. Finding a lock the right size was an issue. I originally purchased two of the “Becky” locks and spent a good deal of time polishing and tuning them. But before I finished with the polishing, I discovered Stan Hollenbaugh‘s locks. Stan had a standard size rifle lock and then a smaller size lock, that I liked much better than the Beckys, and that he was producing at the time... so I purchased two of those.

As these things work out, all of that thinking and gathering was more than 15 years ago now. Also as these things happen, both of my girls are grown and have left home....the youngest is a country singer in Nashville and the oldest one, married and living in New York, just recently had our first grandchild. As they taught me during my plebe year at the US Naval Academy, “time, tide, and formation wait for no man.” Time had truly gotten away from me in the maelstrom of making a living, and life in general, and I never did get a chance to finish the little rifles for my own daughters.

So now, almost two decades further on, I am starting in again. With my grandson only four months old right now, I figure that I might get this done in time for him to use it as a lad. More specifically, at my age, if I miss the boat this time, the opportunity will have passed forever as I am rapidly running out of "air speed, altitude, and ideas !" For those of you who care to follow along, I will start in on at least one of these little rifles (I may do both at the same time.... but perhaps not) and post the progress here.
 
So here is how the project stands right now.......I sent the two stock blanks and barrels to Dave Rase not long ago for barrel inletting and ram rod drilling. One stock has been further trimmed to remove excess wood and prepare for the butt plate installation. The following photos show the parts on hand and I am in the process of making ram rod pipes for 1/4" ram rods, muzzle caps, side plates, patch boxes, etc., etc.



















 
Here are a couple of pictures of the lock I am using compared to others......In the first photo, the top lock is a Becky, the second is the one from Stan that I am using on these little rifles, the next is a Bailes, the next a late Ketland (modified), and the last one is a small Queen Anne. The second picture compares Stan's lock to the small Queen Anne directly. I don't have a small Siler handy.



 
Work on this project is starting out a little slower than I expected....I'm recovering from a recent medical treatment and not quite up to snuff yet. Nonetheless, I am doing some planning. With almost all of my previous builds (except for the recent Kibler kit assembly ;)), I usually hand make a good portion of the required peripheral components from scratch (i.e. patch box, toe plate, side plate, muzzle cap, barrel lugs, etc.) but will use, as often as possible, commercially available parts. However, this time, because of the scale of the rifles, I will need to make all of the required parts. So right now I am gathering materials for the following:

patch box
patch box catch
patch box springs
muzzle cap
front sight
rear sight
ram rod tips
ram rod pipes (3)
side plate
lock bolts
tang bolt
thumb plate
trigger plate
trigger
barrel lugs
toe plate

In the next couple of days, I will start in making two sets of these parts.....it will be easier if i do all the parts for two rifles at the same time. More soon.
 
I will definitely be watching this thread small caliber rifles are a passion of mine. Will love seeing these completed.
 
Many years ago now I wanted to build two, three quarter scale flintlock rifles for my then two small daughters. I was buying stock wood and inletting services from Fred Miller back then and contacted him to ask for a piece of excellent maple thick enough to split in half lengthwise so that I could make two nearly matching stocks for the small rifles. He sent me a great blank which I subsequently band-sawed into rough shaped stocks.

Even before that time, some 20 years ago, I had purchased two Douglas barrels in 32 caliber. They were 13/16 inch across the flats. I cut the barrels to a length of 32 inches and then re-machined the octagon to just a little under .695" across the flats. I made breech plugs for the barrels and, somewhere along the way, found some very small butt plate and trigger guard castings that were close enough to use on these rifles.

I was obviously not moving at the speed of light (or even the speed of dark) but I kept thinking about what I might want to do as far as the little rifle design went. Finding a lock the right size was an issue. I originally purchased two of the “Becky” locks and spent a good deal of time polishing and tuning them. But before I finished with the polishing, I discovered Stan Hollenbaugh‘s locks. Stan had a standard size rifle lock and then a smaller size lock, that I liked much better than the Beckys, and that he was producing at the time... so I purchased two of those.

As these things work out, all of that thinking and gathering was more than 15 years ago now. Also as these things happen, both of my girls are grown and have left home....the youngest is a country singer in Nashville and the oldest one, married and living in New York, just recently had our first grandchild. As they taught me during my plebe year at the US Naval Academy, “time, tide, and formation wait for no man.” Time had truly gotten away from me in the maelstrom of making a living, and life in general, and I never did get a chance to finish the little rifles for my own daughters.

So now, almost two decades further on, I am starting in again. With my grandson only four months old right now, I figure that I might get this done in time for him to use it as a lad. More specifically, at my age, if I miss the boat this time, the opportunity will have passed forever as I am rapidly running out of "air speed, altitude, and ideas !" For those of you who care to follow along, I will start in on at least one of these little rifles (I may do both at the same time.... but perhaps not) and post the progress here.
Thank you.
 
Jim....Thanks for the good wishes on healing. The really good news about radiation treatment is that now, when I'm in the dark, I don't need a flashlight.....I can just open my mouth and see where I'm going.... ;) :eek:

OK....so I felt good enough to try to figure out how I wanted to make the little ram rod pipes for a 1/4 inch rod. I had some thicker walled brass tubing with a 1/4 inch ID so, instead of making the pipes out of sheet, I thought I would make them from tubing and silver solder on the tabs and the skirt for the rear pipe. This was just a test piece. I ground a form tool and then turned the decorative collar on both ends of the pipe. Tomorrow I'll file five flats on the center section and see how it comes out. If I like it, this might be pipe #1 of 6.






 
Just great !
You are doing beautiful work, and I will be watching your progress and cheering you on.

Thanks for sharing.
 
As the saying goes.."Better late than never". Will be watching. Should be an awesome build.
 
The butt plates and trigger guards are rough sand castings and take a lot more file work than an investment cast part. Not done with either yet but made a fair amount of progress. Really not up to starting to inlet parts yet, but will start with the lock as soon as I can. Slow progress is better than no progress... :)





 
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