Angelica Civil War Reenactors event cancelled; similar Fillmore activity unknown

[Tallswife]

Angelica Civil War Reenactors event cancelled; similar Fillmore activity unknown – Allegany Hope

UPDATE – 11:15PM, Monday, September 5: Civil War reenactors , according to an event organizer, will be camped this coming weekend, with no firearms allowed, at the Town of Hume Bicentennial Celebration, concentrating on providing historical information about life during this time period.
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BREAKING: New gun laws which went into effect Thursday have forced cancellation of the Angelica Civil War Reenactment scheduled for later this month.
A notice posted a few hours ago to the event’s Facebook page advises that:
“Unfortunately this event (scheduled for Friday-Sunday, September 23-25) is being cancelled for 2022.
“The new firearms law passed by the State of New York and effective September 1st changed more than the handgun permit requirements.
“Also added are prohibitions against possession of many types of firearms in ‘sensitive locations’ which include streets, sidewalks, parks and most public locations.
“Black powder weapons are not excepted from this ban. Possession of a firearm in public is now a felony.
“After obtaining a legal opinion, it was determined that we could not continue with holding the event this year. Participants could be subject to arrest.
“So the event is cancelled this year. If the law is modified or overturned we hope to return in the future.”
No information has been obtained yet in regard to the Town of Hume Bicentennial Celebration on Saturday-Sunday, September 10 and 11, which has advertised that “Civil War Reenactors will have an encampment in (Fillmore) all weekend long.”
Information on the Hume event is slated to be updated at https://bit.ly/3QfMLZk.
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[Eutycus]

Sad and a sign of things to come, I feel.

 

[Eutycus]

The link states that "black powder weapons are not except from this ban". I am assuming "exempt" instead of except was meant but a Typo occured.

 

[Tumbledown]

I am so glad I got out of NY.

 

[Abe48]

I am so glad I got out of NY.

Me too! Out in 1968. Now go back for weddings, funerals and 1st week of deer season/

 

[Skeggs]

They should consider taking the opportunity to teach historical information regarding firearms and how the current attempts to disarm citizens is a mirror of the British disarming of colonists, etc, etc.

 

[bang]

They should consider taking the opportunity to teach historical information regarding firearms and how the current attempts to disarm citizens is a mirror of the British disarming of colonists, etc, etc.

They do not care.

 

[flconch53]

So now what happens to FT Niagara and all the other fort Reenactments

 

[Eutycus]

Just the wording "possession of a firearm in public is now a felony" is a broad statement.There has to be more details to it.Don't they allow for permits or licenses in that state?

 

[Skeggs]

They do not care.

A shame.

 

[flconch53]

Just wondering is this BP cartridge guns or all BP guns. In the past it was that a muzzleloader wasn't considered a firearm unless you had all the components to make it go

 

[beyu]

Solution: Never ever hold a re-enactment in New York state. Ever, ever, ever.

 

[JohnnieT]

Just wondering is this BP cartridge guns or all BP guns. In the past it was that a muzzleloader wasn't considered a firearm unless you had all the components to make it go

I should imagine that the new law is worded in such a confusing and convoluted way that in this case “better safe than sorry” is the appropriate response.

 

[Hawk54]

Me too! Out in 1968. Now go back for weddings, funerals and 1st week of deer season/

Me too! I go back for funerals and southern zone deer season.

 

[Tumbledown]

Just the wording "possession of a firearm in public is now a felony" is a broad statement.There has to be more details to it.Don't they allow for permits or licenses in that state?

Nope. It doesn't matter if one has a CCW Permit. From this article:

Within a week of Bruen, New York state responded with a list of off-limits “sensitive” areas that must be the result of a brainstorming session by anti-Second Amendment legislators, undoubtedly with the counsel of anti-gun advocates. In New York state, it is now a felony to carry any firearm in:

(a) any place owned or under the control of federal, state or local government, for the purpose of government administration, including courts;

(b) any location providing health, behavioral health, or chemical dependance care or services;

(c) any place of worship or religious observation;

(d) libraries, public playgrounds, public parks, and zoos;

(e) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, funded, or approved by the office of children and family services that provides services to children, youth, or young adults, any legally exempt childcare provider; a childcare program for which a permit to operate such program has been issued by the department of health and mental hygiene pursuant to the health code of the city of New York;

(f) nursery schools, preschools, and summer camps;

(g) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office for people with developmental disabilities;

(h) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by office of addiction services and supports;

(i) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of mental health;

(j) the location of any program licensed, regulated, certified, operated, or funded by the office of temporary and disability assistance;

(k) homeless shelters, runaway homeless youth shelters, family shelters, shelters for adults, domestic violence shelters, and emergency shelters, and residential programs for victims of domestic violence;

(l) residential settings licensed, certified, regulated, funded, or operated by the department of health;

(m) in or upon any building or grounds, owned or leased, of any educational institutions, colleges and universities, licensed private career schools, school districts, public schools, private schools licensed under article one hundred one of the education law, charter schools, non-public schools, board of cooperative educational services, special act schools, preschool special education programs, private residential or non-residential schools for the education of students with disabilities, and any state-operated or state-supported schools;

(n) any place, conveyance, or vehicle used for public transportation or public transit, subway cars, train cars, buses, ferries, railroad, omnibus, marine or aviation transportation; or any facility used for or in connection with service in the transportation of passengers, airports, train stations, subway and rail stations, and bus terminals;

(o) any establishment issued a license for on-premise consumption pursuant to article four, four-A, five, or six of the alcoholic beverage control law where alcohol is consumed and any establishment licensed under article four of the cannabis law for on-premise consumption;

(p) any place used for the performance, art entertainment, gaming, or sporting events such as theaters, stadiums, racetracks, museums, amusement parks, performance venues, concerts, exhibits, conference centers, banquet halls, and gaming facilities and video lottery terminal facilities as licensed by the gaming commission;

(q) any location being used as a polling place;

(r) any public sidewalk or other public area restricted from general public access for a limited time or special event that has been issued a permit for such time or event by a governmental entity, or subject to specific, heightened law enforcement protection, or has otherwise had such access restricted by a governmental entity, provided such location is identified as such by clear and conspicuous signage;

(s) any gathering of individuals to collectively express their constitutional rights to protest or assemble;

(t) the area commonly known as Times Square, as such area is determined and identified by the city of New York; provided such area shall be clearly and conspicuously identified with signage.

So, citizens can’t exercise their constitutional right to arms at church, or, ironically, even at a protest of the diminishment of their right to bear arms. The list of prohibited places goes on and on and on.

 

[Tumbledown]

Furthermore, ALL black powder guns are now classified as firearms. From the Governor's web page:

Legislation S.9456/A.10504 expands the definition of a "firearm" to include any weapon not defined in the Penal Law that is designed or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by action of an explosive. This is intended to capture firearms that have been modified to be shot from an arm brace, which are evading our current definitions of firearms and rifles.

 

[flconch53]

Solution: Never ever hold a re-enactment in New York state. Ever, ever, ever.

That solution would kill F&I and Rev War reenactments on the sites they actually took place.

 

[EBrown]

That solution would kill F&I and Rev War reenactments on the sites they actually took place.

From what I have read here it already has

 

[sportster73hp]

That solution would kill F&I and Rev War reenactments on the sites they actually took place.

It also helps to erase our “real” history...,

 

[Whiteoak15]

I don't believe it will hold up in court when it is challenged (and it WILL be CHALLENGED)! In the meantime, probably the best move is NOT to play!