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Anyone Hunted Deer with a Wheellock?
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few people know how to build wheellock mechanisms, which are very fast and highly efficient. So no many people hunt with wheelock .and wheellock mechanism is several times more expensive than the flintlock.
wheellock mechanism has advantages but also disadvantages, which are important when hunting.
Discomfort : main spring tension in the mechanism wheellock, with the key, it takes longer than flintlock.
advantage : wheellock mechanism initiates spark faster than the flintlock mechanism
wheellock mechanism has advantages but also disadvantages, which are important when hunting.
Discomfort : main spring tension in the mechanism wheellock, with the key, it takes longer than flintlock.
advantage : wheellock mechanism initiates spark faster than the flintlock mechanism
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there is no such thing as half-**** with a wheel lock is there?
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Ask me this question in a year or two, eh Raszpla?
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I'm sure it would be legal enough in PA for their flintlock season too. I can't imagine a court (or game warden for that matter) parsing the nuances between a wheel lock, miquolet, snap haunce, and flintlock. Even a match lock. The spirit of the law seems to be espoused by the "not percussion" nature of the ignition source.
Col. Batguano said:
im sure as long as the gun requires an exposed priming powder that no one would ticket you for it. i wish we had a flintlock season instead of a muzzleloading season. it would weed out those annoying inline shooters.
-matt
Col. Batguano said:
b) Flintlock muzzleloading deer season.
(1) Permitted devices. It is lawful to hunt deer during the flintlock muzzleloading deer season with a flintlock muzzleloading firearm. The firearm must be an original or similar reproduction of muzzleloading firearm manufactured prior to 1800. The firearm’s ignition mechanism must consist of a hammer containing a naturally occurring stone that is spring propelled onto an iron or steel frizzen which, in turn, creates sparks to ignite a priming powder. The firearm must have open sights and be a .44 caliber or larger single-barrel long gun or a .50 caliber or larger single-barrel handgun that propels single-projectile ammunition.
From the Pa Regs. Flint must strike a frizzen.
if some overzealous game warden did decide to give you a tick for using a wheellock. i bet you could take it to court and a judge would throw it out. but i seriously doubt a game warden would ticket you for using an even older style of firearm then is required.
the wheellock meets or exceeds 99% of the requirements. you could easily argue that the gun is a much more primitive design then the flintlock and is giving you no edge over other flintlock shooters. i believe the flintlock season was created to keep more modern guns from being used, not the other way around.
in WA state the laws recognize the caplock, flintlock, wheellock, and matchlock. in fact you can find pictures of each in out big game hunting regs. if onley they didnt allow inlines...
-matt
the wheellock meets or exceeds 99% of the requirements. you could easily argue that the gun is a much more primitive design then the flintlock and is giving you no edge over other flintlock shooters. i believe the flintlock season was created to keep more modern guns from being used, not the other way around.
in WA state the laws recognize the caplock, flintlock, wheellock, and matchlock. in fact you can find pictures of each in out big game hunting regs. if onley they didnt allow inlines...
-matt
From another forum but germane to the subject:
http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2470363
Apparently one of the posters is a PA game warden who scoffs at the idea of taking a matchlock hunting...
http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2470363
Apparently one of the posters is a PA game warden who scoffs at the idea of taking a matchlock hunting...
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Pa regulations for deer through out most of the state, limit muzzle loader ignition to flint, percussion or primer ignited arms, even during the regular firearms season. However, the regulations for elk, say ANY muzzleloader long gun over a certain caliber. For small game, ANY muzzleloader 40 caliber and under.
It appears that the PA Game Comm, really doesn't have any person knowledgable in the field to consult. I have sent letters regarding these matters and got form letter responses. So it appears that they are not even interested in learning either.
It appears that the PA Game Comm, really doesn't have any person knowledgable in the field to consult. I have sent letters regarding these matters and got form letter responses. So it appears that they are not even interested in learning either.
Maybe I'm just a troublemaker but I would go ahead and hunt with my wheellock. IF you ever came across a game warden, show him how it sparks and play stupid saying you thought a wheellock counted because it uses a rock to make sparks it's just setup differently. If the main office doesn't know enough to differentiate he sure won't. :idunno: :stir: :stir: :stir:
