Ardesa Spain Hawken-ish rifle: sear or set trigger problem?

[ajbennettnc]

Hello from the NC back country! Finally joined this forum today after years of reading muzzleloader advice here. A buddy of mine has me tinkering with an Ardesa Spain rifle that won't function right. It will occasionally stay at full cock, but then the pull is terribly heavy and essentially can't be released at all. The set triggers seemed to be working fine, but now aren't releasing the hammer. Out of the gun, the sear won't disengage the tumbler when pressed, and it's a bear to get it to release it in the gun. After pulling it all apart, it looks like the sear is worn down some, but at the same time it seems like it engages the notch too deeply. Adjusting the screw in the lock has only led to it locking up or not engaging the notch at all. Are locks for double set triggers inherently different from those for single trigger guns? I figured the only difference was the fly, but I have had single trigger guns that have fly's in the locks. It seems to have an identical lock to the CVA Mountain Rifle, but I've not got one of those to compare and confirm this. Should I try just replacing the sear or keep fiddling with adjusting the set screws in the lock tumbler and he triggers? Do any of y'all have familiarity with this rifle or this problem in general?
Any advice is much appreciated.
Thanks,
A.J.

 

[Grenadier1758]

While the barrels on the Ardessa Spain rifles are often very good, the locks have often been a problem. Thin case hardening often results in early wear as you have seen on the seer and probably the tumbler. I suspect the case hardening has worn through on both the tumbler and the seer.

Simple single triggers do not require a fly in the tumbler. However, once a manufacturer has set up production of double set triggers which will work just fine with a simple single trigger, will use the lock with the fly for all triggers.

 

[ajbennettnc]

While the barrels on the Ardessa Spain rifles are often very good, the locks have often been a problem. Thin case hardening often results in early wear as you have seen on the seer and probably the tumbler. I suspect the case hardening has worn through on both the tumbler and the seer.

Simple single triggers do not require a fly in the tumbler. However, once a manufacturer has set up production of double set triggers which will work just fine with a simple single trigger, will use the lock with the fly for all triggers.

Thanks! I believe I'll get me a new sear and if that cures it. Do you reckon a sear from a Traditions or CVA Mountain Rifle would fit on an Ardesa?

 

[Grenadier1758]

I would contact Deer Creek Products. They are the US distributors for Traditions (CVA) products. They would have much better insight to parts compatibility. I would also consider replacing the tumbler.

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[SDSmlf]

Welcome to the forum from North Carolina. Didn’t see in your profile where in NC you are located, but noticed in a post that you ‘from the NC back country’. A lot of back country in NC. If you narrowed your location down a bit, someone on the forum may be close by and possibly be able to help you.

 

[ajbennettnc]

Welcome to the forum from North Carolina. Didn’t see in your profile where in NC you are located, but noticed in a post that you ‘from the NC back country’. A lot of back country in NC. If you narrowed your location down a bit, someone on the forum may be close by and possibly be able to help you.

Thanks! I'm located in the Uwharries, in Stanly County.

 

[ajbennettnc]

I would contact Deer Creek Products. They are the US distributors for Traditions (CVA) products. They would have much better insight to parts compatibility. I would also consider replacing the tumbler.

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Thanks! I've had a good experience with them before.

 

[Kansas Jake]

Also, I haven't checked, but a lock from a CVA along with some of the cheaper ones available may be drop in.

 

[ajbennettnc]

Finally got around to ordering a new sear from Deer Creek a little while back. They didn't have the one I need in the online catalog but I called and the guy there was super helpful and found and sent me just what I needed, for a good price too. The Ardesa rifle is working great now.

 

[user 48679]

Happy ending, there !

Welcome to the forum - we hope you'll post often...…. with pics of your project.