Are Ardesa and Traditions the same ?

[kyron4]

Are/were Ardesa muzzleloaders made by the same factory as Traditions, and if so are the parts interchangeable between identical models as in barrels, locks, and stocks ? -Thanks

 

[flconch53]

CVA and Traditions were the same. Don't know about Ardessa

 

[user 48679]

I believe that Ardessa also made barrels for some of the other makers - which can add to some confusion.

 

[user 31257]

I believe that Ardessa makes all of the Traditions guns.

 

[Widows Son]

AFAIK, Ardesa is a manufacturing firm based in Spain and I think there is an affiliation with Bergara.

CVA imported their stuff into North America and put their name on things. When CVA stopped selling side-lock guns, Traditions began doing it.

As far as parts interchangeability, I suppose it would depend on the era the specific parts were made (imperial vs metric threads or different diameter screws etc.) I doubt if a percussion drum made for a CVA Kentucky rifle in 1981 would interchange with a modern one.

But I have been wrong a couple of times this week

 

[rafterob]

Ardessa is the manufacturer of (current) Traditions muzzleloaders. Parts should interchange. Ardessa does offer some higher end models not imported by Traditions.

 

[BoomStick]

Ardessa became Traditions and Jukar became CVA. Would seem those are brand names to better fit the US market. Probably the case that each company exists as a north America division that functions as the importer from Spain. Parts interchangeability between the manufacturers may be unintentional, but it does seem most older stuff looks like current. Could be some changes though...

Bergara barrels are in the component mix for one or both, but maybe only for their inlines.

 

[necchi]

and if so are the parts interchangeable between identical models as in barrels, locks, and stocks ? -Thanks

In many cases Yes, but it's not universally so. Meaning not in all cases.
There have been changes to the breech/hook styles (hook or button) and small variations in lock screw location.
As @rafterob said, Ardessa's European market made rifles are of a better quality, they took/take more time with finishing the lock and trigger components before assembly and the wood seems to be a bit better grade