arquebus

[surrealpillow]

Has an anyone had any experience with arquebus offered by Historicenterprises that they would care to share/review?
thanks.

 

[Teleoceras]

Surrealpillow:

Has an anyone had any experience with arquebus offered by Historicenterprises that they would care to share/review?
thanks.

I own of the them (I call her Anna). My .62 is a nice Matchlock, but I wasn't crazy about the finish on the wood. After rubbing some linseed oil into the wood, she looked a lot better.

As for shooting, Anna shoots a bit high and to the left, but has some pretty decent accuracy at 25 yards with approx. 4" groups using a .595RB/.010 patch and a 60gr. FFg charge.

Hope this helps!

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[ChrisPer]

I really wonder about accuracy for these - what did the original users expect and get? I can see a royal armourer getting serious about accuracy with the prince's sporting arms, but was a gun like this used for accuracy by our standards or just intended to be used either whites-of-eyes close or against massed enemy? If so, did makers tune them with tight balls or patches, or by shooting groups?

 

[Leonredbeard]

ChrisPer,
I have the Wheellocks of the Royal Armouries, and it shows a pic of some little guys in front of the massed lancers and underneath their long spears with the enemy facing with their spears tip to tip. It looks like a situation that when the order is given to fire, the little guys discharge their matchlocks point blank and then run off the the side of the lines to get out of the way of the lancers sparring with each other.
Just my impression.
volatpluvia

 

[Teleoceras]

ChrisPer:

I really wonder about accuracy for these - what did the original users expect and get? I can see a royal armourer getting serious about accuracy with the prince's sporting arms, but was a gun like this used for accuracy by our standards or just intended to be used either whites-of-eyes close or against massed enemy? If so, did makers tune them with tight balls or patches, or by shooting groups?

Like Volatpluvia said, these were pretty much shoot at a massed crowd, then back off to reload. You aren't going to get sharpshooter type accuracy with these arms.

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[David Teague]

Ive had of the HE arquebus for a few years now. It's a hoot to shoot. :hatsoff:

Cheers,

David

 

[missionary5155]

Good morning
Even into our own CW musket tactics had hardly changed from the last 350 years. Firing into massed troops who were charging to brake a hole through the enemy lines to get to the king or general as times went along.
Accuracy had little to do with the average soilder until the average soilder was armed with the mini-ball and a rifled musket barrel. Till then rapid massed fire was more important. When the enemy ranks were 10 deep and 100 man front that fired RB was going to strike someone somewhere eventually. And if nothing else the smoke and fire would maybe rattle the nerves of horse and rider.

 

[Tourblanche]

Accuracy had little to do with the average soilder




With some historic exceptions

OK , I admit Champlain was not your average soldier :wink:

 

[the11]

Plus he had 4 balls in it at the time.

 

[arquebus]

When firearms first started making an appearance on battlefields it was more for the psycological effect on the enemy & accuracy was not a major consideration, or at least they hadn't developed the techniques necessary to achieve it. This was at the tail-end of the dark ages & it was a society very much ruled by superstition & firearms were viewed by many as being tools of the occult (similar to modern day liberals!).

 

[surrealpillow]

well it figures now that im ready to buy one they are out of stock and don't know if they'll be able to get more in. haven't found anywhere that makes anything similar at a reasonable price either.

 

[Teleoceras]

Surrealpillow:

well it figures now that im ready to buy one they are out of stock and don't know if they'll be able to get more in. haven't found anywhere that makes anything similar at a reasonable price either.

Ugh, sorry to hear that.

If I make a suggestion, I recommend John Buck if you have to go to a custom builder to get a similar arm. Mr. Buck can and has built such Matchlocks for similar price. :2

Good luck with your quest!

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[surrealpillow]

Surrealpillow:

well it figures now that im ready to buy one they are out of stock and don't know if they'll be able to get more in. haven't found anywhere that makes anything similar at a reasonable price either.

Ugh, sorry to hear that.

If I make a suggestion, I recommend John Buck if you have to go to a custom builder to get a similar arm. Mr. Buck can and has built such Matchlocks for similar price. :2

Good luck with your quest!

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Thanks for your imput, I think i just might give john buck a call and see what he can do for me if HE doesn't get them back in stock soon. thanks again!

 

[Chuck Thom]

I also recommmend John Buck. I have a dutch style that is a great shooter...prices are within reason too.....chuck thom

 

[oldarmy]

My ECW matchlock should be here soon.
John is a great guy. I can recommend him also.