Asking for assistance on identifying a Muzzleloader

[Charles L Finn]

If anyone can provide any information on the attached muzzleloader I would greatly appreciate it. If the video does not open properly please cut and paste it in your web browser. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBvxelaFtY&feature=youtu.be

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

If anyone can provide any information on the attached muzzleloader I would greatly appreciate it. If the video does not open properly please cut and paste it in your web browser. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBvxelaFtY&feature=youtu.be

Looks like "poor" on barrel top and looks like thomas green inscription on patch box.
video was too fast moving....Thomas Green 1697-1728 who may or not may be connected to your rifle. Just dont know that much about him...London builder? redo the video going slower on the details

SM

 

[Zonie]

Just a hint for watching videos:
While the video is running, if you poke the K on your keyboard it will freeze the picture so you can examine it more closely. When your done looking at it, poke the K again and the video will resume playing.

To me, the gun looks like something that was possibly made in the 1830-1840 time period.
It was always a percussion gun and this time period is fairly early in the making of this type of gun. It is also fairly late in the period that had full patchboxes like the gun has. (Later percussion guns often came with "cap boxes" which are much smaller than a patchbox.)

 

[Charles L Finn]

Looks like "poor" on barrel top and looks like thomas green inscription on patch box.
video was too fast moving....Thomas Green 1697-1728 who may or not may be connected to your rifle. Just dont know that much about him...London builder? redo the video going slower on the details

SM

I well get more detail next week. Thanks

 

[TFoley]

To me the inscription on the barrel reads P. GORT[?}xxxxxxx

Does that make any more sense to anybody?

 

[Treestalker]

Peter Gonter, Lancaster? He died about 1818 so may be too early.

 

[Charles L Finn]

P. Gonter is listed on the gun barrel.

 

[TFoley]

P. Gonter is listed on the gun barrel.

That is precisely what was on mine, as well.

 

[Tanselman]

Despite what may be "P. Gonter" on the barrel, this rifle looks very much like a circa 1840 New England rifle stocked in faded curly cherry wood. The patchbox has New England details, and the single trigger and oval lock bolt washer are also frequently found on New England rifles. Check the stock wood closely to see if you can determine if it is cherry. Shelby Gallien

 

[Charles L Finn]

Thanks much and will do. Wonder what the Thos Green on the patchbox means?

 

[TFoley]

Despite what may be "P. Gonter" on the barrel, this rifle looks very much like a circa 1840 New England rifle stocked in faded curly cherry wood. The patchbox has New England details, and the single trigger and oval lock bolt washer are also frequently found on New England rifles. Check the stock wood closely to see if you can determine if it is cherry. Shelby Gallien

From what I recall of my Peter Gonter long rifle, his name was written in cursive script as P. Gonter to be read from holding the gun with the lock facing the holder. As a long shot, if it ever turns up back in the USA, it has my full name written in ink on a piece of paper glued on the bottom flat of the barrel, along with my date of birth.

 

[TFoley]

Thanks much and will do. Wonder what the Thos Green on the patchbox means?

Thos. (Thomas) Green is a not uncommon name. Howzabout it being the former original owner?

 

[ugly old guy]

Thanks much and will do. Wonder what the Thos Green on the patchbox means?

Thomas Green is/was a previous owner, is my guess.

At one time it was not unusual to put your name on your arms.

 

[Eddie Southgate]

From what I recall of my Peter Gonter long rifle, his name was written in cursive script as P. Gonter to be read from holding the gun with the lock facing the holder. As a long shot, if it ever turns up back in the USA, it has my full name written in ink on a piece of paper glued on the bottom flat of the barrel, along with my date of birth.

This one is in block letters not script but is facing the right direction . Looks stamped rather than engraved .

 

[Charles L Finn]

Thos. (Thomas) Green is a not uncommon name. Howzabout it being the former original owner?

I get that. Would be cool if General Thomas Green was the guy. The dates actually match up, but still a long shot.

 

[AZ Muzzleloaders]

I have a P. Gonter original and the barrel marking looks the same.

 

[TFoley]

I have a P. Gonter original and the barrel marking looks the same.

Please show us pictures of your Peter Gonter rifle!!! Mine was stolen back in 1997 at a show and tell gun show.

 

[AZ Muzzleloaders]

It has been restocked. We believe all the rest is original. 46" swamped barrel.

 

[TFoley]

This one is in block letters not script but is facing the right direction . Looks stamped rather than engraved .

It do, especially as it's slighty askew. Mine was definitely cut-engraved with a V-shaped burin in script - might that signify and early product? Sadly I'll never know, not be able to prove - the photo album was in the possibles bag along with the powder horn - everything went out of the door with the thief.

 

[F.G. Ford]

All thieves should be castrated and shot. Slowly!!