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Austin and Halleck: What do you think?
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I have a AH .50 cal mtn rifle with a 1-66 twist barrel and it shoots great. IF there is any draw back to it it is it only has .007 deep grooves but in my experience it has never been a problem. I have the select grade and the fit and finish is excellent. The triggers are fantastic,smooth as silk. If you want a rifle that shoots great AND looks great as well you can not go wrong with a Austin Halleck. a .490 ball ticking patch lubed with Lehigh Valley in front of 75 grs of FFFG Goex works pretty darn good in my rifle.
Undoubtedly a good looking rifle in either of the two grades available. For approximately double the cost of a GPR, you get nicer looking wood--- better lock & trigger combo---the sights are the same---nice brown finished barrel. I don't like the shallow grooves for the rifling---but the gun does shoot quite accurately. Only drawback IMHO is there is only one calibre available .50, I would like to see some larger bores, i.e. .54, .60 or .62, available. Other than what I have listed I still use my .54 GPR more than the A & H ( which frankly will be on the market soon). Would I buy another??? NO :imo:
I have both a A&H and GPR and the austin blows the lyman away!!! The Lock is strong and smooth as snot on a glass door knob - the Lyman is manure!! The trigger is light crisp and consistant - the lyman manure!!
I don't know what everybody sees in the GPR - I consider it second rate. I'd buy a used TC and put a Green mountain on it before I'd buy another lyman.
I'll stick with my A&H - sub 2" at fifty all day with 90gr of 2f and ticking around a 490. 75 and 80gr are little tighter but I'll keep the added umpf..
I gave my lyman to my kid and he is already planning his first quality rifle. I'll just use it for a trainer as I have a couple more ready to start soon. It is accurate though - but they all are with the right touch.
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I don't know what everybody sees in the GPR - I consider it second rate. I'd buy a used TC and put a Green mountain on it before I'd buy another lyman.
I'll stick with my A&H - sub 2" at fifty all day with 90gr of 2f and ticking around a 490. 75 and 80gr are little tighter but I'll keep the added umpf..
I gave my lyman to my kid and he is already planning his first quality rifle. I'll just use it for a trainer as I have a couple more ready to start soon. It is accurate though - but they all are with the right touch.
:m2c:
If your GPR is that bad why don't you sell it to me at a good price. I have never had a problem with any of mine. Use the money to buy a different trainer that you might like better.
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When it will shoot less than 2" at one hundred... then I "might" consider getting one.
Thanks for the info. Is your A&H a sidehammer flintlock or what?
Shoot Safely,
WV_Hillbilly:front:
I'll keep it til they learn and then it will be sold.
2" ctc off hand is the best I can do - Now if your talkin off the bags it's better than that but the only time I use bags is to set the sights. It's a caplock.
When the GPR arrived this is what was done.
1) Had to tapper the wedge plates so the pins would go in.
2) Wood was stained but really rough - smoothed it out and Tung oiled it (did the job)
3) caps were sticking with some misfires - Hammer didn't fit the nipple right- opened up the nose and cut a little notch on the face of the hammer with my dremel
Now it busts caps real good.
4) hammer was a loose fit so I peened the hole alittle
fixed that
5) Adj. rear sight fell apart when the adj. screw fell out
using fixed sight now (works but the A&H is better looking)
Still have to fix the rough trigger and I guess they'll just have to live with the half cock notch cut so you have to bring it to full cock to cap it (A terrible if not dangerous design)
I think some people have lower standards for blackpowder arms and this should not be as fit and finish should rival smokeless arms (It's just wood and metal) or beat them.
For me the A&H will be the last production arm I will buy - I'll wait til I can have one built buy a quality outfit or person ie... TVM,Tip curtis,Centermark and the many artists that are members here.
You get what you pay for (hopefully)
:imo: :results:
2" ctc off hand is the best I can do - Now if your talkin off the bags it's better than that but the only time I use bags is to set the sights. It's a caplock.
When the GPR arrived this is what was done.
1) Had to tapper the wedge plates so the pins would go in.
2) Wood was stained but really rough - smoothed it out and Tung oiled it (did the job)
3) caps were sticking with some misfires - Hammer didn't fit the nipple right- opened up the nose and cut a little notch on the face of the hammer with my dremel
Now it busts caps real good.
4) hammer was a loose fit so I peened the hole alittle
fixed that
5) Adj. rear sight fell apart when the adj. screw fell out
using fixed sight now (works but the A&H is better looking)
Still have to fix the rough trigger and I guess they'll just have to live with the half cock notch cut so you have to bring it to full cock to cap it (A terrible if not dangerous design)
I think some people have lower standards for blackpowder arms and this should not be as fit and finish should rival smokeless arms (It's just wood and metal) or beat them.
For me the A&H will be the last production arm I will buy - I'll wait til I can have one built buy a quality outfit or person ie... TVM,Tip curtis,Centermark and the many artists that are members here.
You get what you pay for (hopefully)
:imo: :results:
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I think you should shoot what you like and buy the best you can afford. I have seen people with ccheap riles who could shoot more accurate than the people at the same range with those so called high dollar custom rifles. :m2c:
I've have had both, a A&H Mountain rifle and a Lyman Great Plains rifle. The Lyman is a nice rifle, does the job well. The A&H just seems to do the job better. If I were going to hunt Grizzly or Polar bears, I'd probably favor the Lyman in .54 over the A&H, but then I'd probably favor a Winchester 70 in 458 Mag and a real good scope so I can keep my distance. :imo: I'd say the A&H is a good rifle.
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