Barrel Mount Peep Sight

[Sean Gadhar]

I was thinking about trying a Barrel Mount Peep Sight. But I'm un sure of placement. Thinking about the Barrel mount peep from Skinner Sights.

http://www.skinnersights.com/barrel_mount_6.html

(page down a bit to see barrel mount photos)

I have never mounted a peep before. There's in the photos are shown well along the barrel. The peeps I've shot were mounted at or behind the trigger.

Q; Have any of you mounted a barrel peep? If so how did you set the placement? I was thinking I'd just have to start at my dove tail & move it back & forth until I find my sight picture. But I thought I would start here 1st for thoughts & ideas.

 

[Herb]

You can mount it where your rear sight dovetail is now. Even though a long way from your eye, it still works very well. I make a sight as shown below, here on my .58 Hawken fullstock flintlock. The dovetail is 11 inches forward of the end of the barrel and the hole is .100, open at the top. The front sight is .1 wide. I have since made a smaller-holed rear sight for accuracy testing, but even this one works very well. Here I am shooting through my chronograph at milk jugs at 170 yards, which I missed by several inches due to wind drift. Track of the Wolf makes something similar, called a Fixed Sight with Peep.

 

[Herb]

Here is another I made on a .50 flintlock. I designed it to be aimed with the top of the front sight centered in the hole for a 50 yard zero, but when held even with the top, that was to be about a 100 yard zero. See target below.

These targets were shot at 100 yards, sights not centered. Left target was 80 grains of Goex 2F at 1639 fps, hit low and left. Sight picture was with the blade at top of the hole as drawn on lower left. Next group with 120 grains of Goex 2F at 1976 fps was shot at right target with same sight picture, group formed between the targets. I tapped the front sight left to zero and aimed with the blade centered in the hole and shot the group that centers on the bull. This is how well these sights can work. I think I can center that blade in the hole better than I can hold it even with the top of the hole.

 

[Sean Gadhar]

Thanks :thumbsup: The photo was a big help as well.

Only thing is;the ones you made look like they belong on that barrel. The sight I am looking at seems like it will not flow with the rifles lines

tribulations of change bug the tar out of me :wink:

 

[silly goose]

I really like that sight, may have to try that when I get the gumption and time to make one.

 

[Pioneer flinter]

Hey Sean in theory the closer to the eye the better. the purpose of a peep sight is to look thru. the sight and focus on the front sight and target the peep sight itself should blur out. I have some I made on all my muzzleloaders it is made from a piece of angle iron i know it is not a close up but the look like this.
I will try to get some closer pics for you.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Those are interesting but obviously made for modern rifles.
Peepers really need to be close to the eye. The Johnson sight might appeal to you more. About half way down the page. http://www.muzzleloaderbuilderssup...?cart_id=4870234.19376&next=25&product=Sights

 

[LRB]

Only available in German silver

 

[blackdog of vt]

This kind is easy to make and works well without changing the lines of the gun. Its the same size as distance from the eye as an m1 sight.

 

[Sean Gadhar]

Only available in German silver

Found it here: http://www.muzzleloaderbuilderssup...?cart_id=6014789.26677&next=25&product=Sights

In brass & Steel and with a photo :wink:

 

[Sean Gadhar]

Black Dog & Herb Thanks for the photos they help a ton :hatsoff:

Gives me a good starting point.

 

[LRB]

Thanks Sean. The photo filled my screen and I didn't realize there was more to see.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Only available in German silver

Nope. There are two, steel and German silver.

 

[hawkeye2]

Nope. There are three, brass, steel and German silver.

While an aperture sight should be as close to the eye as possible I have had very good results with an aperture mounted as much as 4+" forward of the rear edge of the barrel. The size of the aperture has to be adjusted to compensate for the distance.

Blackdog, I like that sight, simple and unobtrusive.

 

[Davemuzz]

FWIW, and I'm sure you gave some thought to a tang mounted peep sight such as the Lyman 57.Lyman Tang Sight I only suggest this as I still, even after 30 some years of flint shooting have that occasional wince from the pan flash. So, in addition to obtaining more accuracy from a longer sight picture, and the peep, the sight completely blocks the flash from my vision.

Dave

 

[doulos]

Ive been trying this on one of my muzzleloaders. I figured seeing and hitting was more important in hunting than being period correct. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...h-double-step-elevator-338-to-535-height-blue
I have another rifle with a v shape blade and a gold bead that is also helpful
It sucks to get old and my vision is getting worse yearly.

 

[Herb]

Here is an original in a museum in Des Moines, Iowa. I saw an original Hawken halfstock in the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial in St Louis with a similar sight. It looked like a buckhorn sight with a 1/4" flat washer soldered between the horns. The correct term for that sight is a "closed buckhorn".

 

[Herb]

Here is an original Gemmer in Jim Gordon's museum in Glorieta, NM.

And here is another one.

 

[Rifleman1776]

For those who shoot with clubs that follow NMLRA rules, keep in mind a buckhorn with less than 1/4" between the horns is considered an adjustable sight and is illegal. As Herb said, he holds center for most shooting but at the small closing formed by the buckhorn for long range. Handy and works but not considered proper for the open sight matches, per NMLRA.