Barrel screws instead of barrel pins ??

[roundball]

Just thought I'd share this...read an interesting description about a long gun whose stock was held to the barrel by screws up from the bottom (in the ramrod channel)...instead of the routine way of pins crossways from the sides.

Never heard of that before and assume it's probably not HC/PC...but it struck me as a workable alternative to business as usual...easier to remove a barrel, no worries about marring a stock, etc

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

Several things ,

Screw threads would need to be cut in a manner so that they bottom out on the barrel threads to keep from overtightning and splitting the stock, that area is typically one of the thinnest areas on a Longrifle.

Also the wood would need to be slotted to allow for the lateral movement of the forearm, there seems to be no way to tap threads into the barrel and allow for a floating connection there.

With the underlugs being slotted for the pin or the key this is not really an issue.

YMMV

 

[crockett]

For the reasons already cited- I also don't think it is a good method. If you want to remove the barrel I'd go with wedges. On a long rifle there are tiny wedges you can use for the fore stock.

 

[ebiggs1]

I did that exact thing on my second build, such as it is. I didn't know any different!
It is the full stock gun. The half stock is number three. Number one isn't any more.

Anyway here is how I did it. There is plenty of room for movement. The photo isn't the best and the gun was little dirty from shooting. It works well and makes it easy to clean as the barrel comes out quickly. The brass washer protects the stock.

That screw is just in front of the ram rod pipe. Just behind the nose cap in this picture. There is another one in front of the second pipe.

 

[roundball]

If you want to remove the barrel I'd go with wedges. On a long rifle there are tiny wedges you can use for the fore stock.

(not planning on doing it, just sharing what I'd run across...barrel pin removal is easy enough)

 

[Capt. Jas.]

Some early English half stocks use a screw into a piece underneath the barrel that has a hole thru it for the ramrod.

 

[Ken Rummer]

My Pedersoli Blue Ridge flintlock (sold thru Cabela's) uses the short screws that attach the ramrod thimbles to also attach the stock to the barrel. I like this feature because I feel I can get a better cleaning when I can dunk the barrel in a bucket of water and not worry about getting the black wet gunk all over my stock.

I agree that wedges would be even better.

 

[roundball]

"...uses the short screws that attach the ramrod thimbles to also attach the stock to the barrel..."

That eliminates the question of a screw not having enough purchase on the frail wood...

 

[Mike Brooks]

The old hatfields used to be that way. No room for barrrel/wood expansion...... not good.

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

The old hatfields used to be that way. No room for barrrel/wood expansion...... not good.

Thank You

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Oh Wait,

He can't see our posts anyway

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[tg]

I have held on a nose cap this way and think it was done on some early rifles as well, I did not care much for it on my Hatfield clone by WRW in the late 90's, if I recall there was a thicker than wanted web twixt the barrel and ramrod channel probably to allow more purches of the thimble which was also a washer of sorts, many current offerings have a lot of wood there also, I can see the tenon in the rr channel on any of the guns I have worked on, this can be one indicator that the web is not super thick from what I have seen, unless you have a real long tenon

 

[Birddog6]

I have seen allot of JP Gunstocks rifles assembled with screws up thru the RR pipes. Can't say they were all that way, but the ones I saw were.

In my thoughts, not the best way to retain a barrel.

Keith Lisle