Barrel Weight

[Swampman]

Why do you think a .54 caliber C profile 42" Colerain barrel weighs 5.5lbs and the same Rice barrel weighs 5 lbs?

Oddly enough the 44" ,54 Caliber C profile Rice barrel weighs 4.4 lbs.

 

[djnye]

offhand i would say that the colerain has more metal in it.

tak care, daniel

 

[LRB]

The letter profiles that Rice uses are slightly different than the same letter profiles that Colrain uses, unless there have been changes. Rice's C will not fit in a stock cut for Colrains C. However, I can't see where that could make a pound difference. Maybe a typo?

 

[Mike Brooks]

Up till a few years ago I thought the main barrel makers had all gotten together and figured out a "standard in barrel profiles" and labeled them A,B,C,D, to help lessen the confusion and make it more convienient when you buy a kit because you'd then be able to buy any barrel you choose and have it fit in your precarved kit. Sadly, such is not the case. A "C" weight Colerain isn't the same as a Rice which isn't the same as a Getz. Why they can't all get together on this is beyond me....
And, I've noticed in the past couple of years , some barrel makers don't hold tolerance on their barrel profiles. I just had to practically hand inlet a barrel into a kit this week because the barrel was so over sized and out of spec.

 

[bnail]

Up till a few years ago I thought the main barrel makers had all gotten together and figured out a "standard in barrel profiles" and labeled them A,B,C,D, to help lessen the confusion and make it more convienient when you buy a kit because you'd then be able to buy any barrel you choose and have it fit in your precarved kit. Sadly, such is not the case. A "C" weight Colerain isn't the same as a Rice which isn't the same as a Getz. Why they can't all get together on this is beyond me....
And, I've noticed in the past couple of years , some barrel makers don't hold tolerance on their barrel profiles. I just had to practically hand inlet a barrel into a kit this week because the barrel was so over sized and out of spec.

That's interesting Mike, I too was under the same impression. I was hoping that, for example, one could swap out one c weight Getz for another, effectively going from a fowler to a rifle without much difficulty.

 

[Mike Brooks]

Swaping one Getz C weight for another Getz C weight is no problem. It's when you tyr to switch between barrel makers is when you run into trouble.
I think Rice is copying Getz profiles, and they should interchange, but Colrain and Getz profiles don't interchange....all very confusing. :hmm:

 

[hollandbriscoe]

Mike I wouldn't be surprised if Rice is copying Getz's profiles since they both make barrels for the chambers kits.

Jack


On a side note if anyone is looking to build a spectacular english sporting rifle from a Chambers kit they have a gorgeous stock there now. It's english walnut with burl and tiger stripped. I would have loved to have it but I would just screw up a piece of wood that nice.

 

[Swampman]

I ordered the C profile 42" .54 Rice barrel from Buckeye Barrels today. I think I'll be pleased with it.

 

[DrTimboone]

Mebbe its cause Rice does such a nice job of finishing his barrrells inside and out.... :rotf:

 

[Swampman]

I believe Mr. Brooks is correct. The profile letters don't mean much. I have one Rice barrel, and it is a cut above most production barrels.

 

[Swampman]

UPS Tracking says it will be here tomorrow. :thumbsup:

 

[Swampman]

It came today. UPS lost it over the weekend.

Rice 42" Swamped "C profile" round bottomed rifling. It's a real honey, inside and out.

I'm probably gonna use the Chamber's Early Ketland lock. I'd consider the Christian Springs lock, but I figure folks will be building the fire out of the Christian Springs rifles since Mark Baker has one now. :hatsoff:

 

I have an Excel application to calculate swamped barrel weights. I entered the Rice specifications and the result is 5.12 US pounds or 2.32 kg (without the breech plug). I looked up the Colerain specs and they are exactly the same.

Robert

 

[Mike Brooks]

I'd consider the Christian Springs lock, but I figure folks will be building the fire out of the Christian Springs rifles since Mark Baker has one now.

That's odd, I don't recall building Baker a Christian Springs rifle. :hmm: He always said he wanted me to build him a rifle one day....now I'm crushed... :winking: