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Hey what do you think is the best kind of flux for mealting lead and how much should i use?
 
:hmm: Don't know if it's the best...........but I use bees wax and haven't had any problems. I usually use a piece about the size of a pea for my lead pot.
Soggy
 
Ive used beeswax and flux from Brownells, I think its called Marvelux or something like that. I like it better than beeswax because it doesn't smoke nearly as much.
Idaho PRB
 
so a pee sized peice for a pot of lead? Is there anything else that can be used? What exactly does flux do for the lead?
 
flux acts as a reducing agent getting the oxides out of the lead. A flux that I am quite fond of is mineral oil and hardwood sawdust. Visit your shop or a local cabinit maker and add as much oil as it will absorb, a half a teaspoon seems to do.
 
Being frugal, I use the wax from old candles, works great and uses up the old candles from the wife.

RDE
 
ive had good luck with bits of candle or pariffin. though it does smoke. ive tried hardwood sawdust and a few other things, & dont care as much for them, they do a good job fluxing but the solid fluxes leave a bit of residue that also needs skimmed off.
what ever you choose, the main thing is get your lead as clean as possible.
 
When I started casting bullets over 35 years ago I was told to put some wax in the pot and light the wax with match then stir the pot. Been using the wifes canning wax for years.
 
I tried using beeswax, but I found it easier to just skim frequently and toss the trash from the top.

CS
 
The trash always floats to the surface. What you do by fluxing with beeswax- stir the lead while the beeswax is melting and burning off, is to draw small impurities to the surface so they can be SKIMMED OFF!

I learned this all the hard way when melting lead we dug out of dirt backstops at ranges. The lead came with lots of dirt and other impurities. We were making pistol bullets, so the alloy didn't matter all that much. However, the stuff was very difficult to clean, and we found we had to first pour it into our ingot mold, after stirring, fluxing a couple of times, and then skimming repeatedly as stuff came to the surface. Then after it was in ingot form, we could add it to the lead pot and melt it down again, and more small stuff would float to the surface. You could tell the difference when you were sizing the bullets, as you would occasionally hit some impurity that would make it through and give added resistance to the sizer. We learned it paid to find lead sheeting from roofers, and other sources of pure lead if we wanted clean lead in the pot. That didn't stop us from picking up lead from the back stop, but we did the extra steps to clean that lead, and mixed it with pure lead to bring the amount of tin and animony down. Years later, I found that its the antimony that makes the lead so hard and brittle, not the tin.
 
Old candles, canning wax, bees wax and the broken grand kids crayons. They think I am nuts picking up the freebee crayons they give the grandkids to color with at the diners. :v
 
Hi Ian, when casting roundballs I don't flux the lead at all just stir and skim constantly and it seems to work quite well, though I do use relatively clean scrap lead sheeting.As an aside I've done a fair amount of bronze casting for sculpture using scrap bronze.We would use phosphur/copper pellets that were pushed down to the BOTTOM of the pot of molten metal and would "boil" strongly bringing the all the impurities to the surface to be then skimmed off (sometimes we would put broken glass on top of the metal which would melt and catch the dross and make skimming easier).Of course bronze melts at a much higher temp than lead-- All the best Zodd
 
I hear ya Crack Stock. I tried fluxing but it didn't seem to make a bit of difference. Like you, I just skim the crud off the top and every now and then scrape around the bottom and sides of the pot and skim again. I've been casting balls since 1976 and making sinkers before that and never needed to flux. Most of the balls I have weighed are within +- .5 grains of each other. I also used lead as a pipefitter for 10 or 12 years. I still use a plumber's lead pot, and probably run it a little hotter than the electric pots, so maybe that's the difference. Bill
 
I use lead containers from x-ray shipping. It is quite soft and only has some paint that burns off when left in the hot pot outside over time and is easily skimmed.

While casting, I stir a bit and skim. I tried flux, but it never seemed to make a noticeable difference in the weight or shape of the balls.

CS
 
:rotf: I got ahold of a chunk about 200lbs It was a wieght off the back of a fork lift That was the worst chore I ever did trying to cut it up into small enough chunks to put in the pot.Next time I'm gonna find an old 50 gallon drum and make a big pot over a open fire. :youcrazy:
 

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