best stock choice

[buttonbuck]

Was wondering considering ordering a Pecatonica River hawken-renegade replacement half stock for building up a shotgun-roundball smooth bore out a a green mountain smoothbore in 62 cal. The pecatonica river replacement stock has more drop than the regular TC hawken-renegade stocks From what I recall and have experienced having more drop is more desirable for shooting a bp shotgun-rb gun. Anyone else go this route entertaining suggestions. :v

 

[Iron Jim Rackham]

For wing shooting you don't want more than about 2 1/2" inches at the comb. The radical drop encountered on early 18th century Freench styled guns limit there usefullness to shooting small game on the ground.

It may be unfair to say that the English invented wing shooting, but they certainly were amongst the foremost innovators in "shotgunning." English shotguns whether flintlock, percussion or modern offer relatively little drop.

 

[Rifleball36]

2 1/2" drop at the comb or heel of the stock? :hmm:

 

[buttonbuck]

it states on pecatonica's website it drops 3" at the heel. so I guess you are saying it would be a poor bird gun or not?

 

[Iron Jim Rackham]

Thank's for catching that. 1 1/4 at the comb and 2 1/2 at the heel is about perfect for wing shooting.

 

[Iron Jim Rackham]

I think 3" is too much. You want to be able to get wood to wood without having to raise your cheek off the stock.

 

[buttonbuck]

so a regular stock on a tc renegade or hawken would be appropriate, I have not gotten out to shoot skeet but I will experiment a little.

 

[Iron Jim Rackham]

I've never owned either gun, so I don't know what the drop measures. I will mentioned that a crescent shaped buttplate typical of Hawken's won't be practical on a shotgun. You want to be able to throw the gun to your shoulder, rather than fit it to your shoulder. A wide flat buttplate works well for both recoil absorption and ease of shouldering.

 

[Capt. Jas.]

I agree about the crecent buttplate being bad for wingshooting.

Stock drops and measurements are only subjective to the individual behind the gun.
There are many people who need a buttpad lower than the normal stock dimensions but dont always need a higher comb. There are so many factors in good fit... neck length, shoulder width, arm length, (from albow to wrist and from elbow to shoulder) eye location on skull, cheek height and width, etc.

Most modern shotguns are designed to "fairly" fit an average build person and few are of "average" build. The "average" design allows those who do not know how to properly hold , mount and shoot a shotgun to make himself fit the shotgun where the ideal is that the gun is fit to the individual.
Most of these shooters look at their bead anyway.

You also never bring a shotgun to your shoulder but to your face. The shoulder takes care of itself.

 

[Vaino]

Any type of shooting that requires the shot
gun or rifle to be quickly shouldered from a carrying position, will tell in a hurry whether the fit is right. Have done a lot of ruffed grouse hunting and fit is all important to consistently hit these birds. Went thru a lot of shotguns to find one that allowed a shot w/o moving the head.....the gun should be mounted w/o craning the neck or crawling the stock......Fred

 

[buttonbuck]

really the only shotguns I have much experience with are remington 870's I will have to find more time to experiment with the equiptment I have namely the renegade stock and compare skeet shooting with the 870 and the renegade with the smooth bore shot barrel.