Better Charleville id

[pepperbelly]

After doing some reading I have finally figured out which model Charleville musket I have. I knew it was a 1777 by Pedersoli, but when I described it before buying we had trouble figuring exactly what it was.
It is a Pedersoli Charleville 1777 Corrigé "An IX".
I still have no idea how desirable this is to shooters. I have read thta it was carried by Napolean's infantry and probably never mde it here until after the revolutionary war.

I still haven't shot it but may be able to this weekend.

I still wish I had found a Pennsylvania style longrifle instead, but this might turn out to be fun too.

Jim

 

[Jumpshot]

http://davide-pedersoli.com/ArmiCategoria.aspx?CategoriaId=225&lang=en

 

[pepperbelly]

That's the one Jumpshot.
I swear, from looking it over the previous owner never fired it. I can't find a single powder smudge anywhere. It's like it was just hung on a wall.

Jim

 

[Jumpshot]

Maybe it was an impulse-buy, then after he thought about it he realized it wasn't for him. I admit I've done the same thing.

 

[pepperbelly]

That would have been one expensive impulse. The prices I have found put it in the $1000.00 and up range.
I got it for much less so he must have taken a huge hit on it.

Jim

 

[torn moc]

Jim, you got one Heck of a great deal on it!
after you shoot it awhile you will love it even more!

 

[Carteret Kid]

Perhaps it can be retrofitted to be an earlier model ?

 

[Wes/Tex]

The "AnIX" was the updated version of the M.1777 developed during the 9th year of the French Revolution, hence the Roman numeral IX, which would be 1801. It didn't get into wide issue in the Grande Armee until at least 1809. Basically, it differed from the earlier model by a different method of attachment of the barrel bands. Like the earlier M.1777, it was called "the 5 foot clarinet" by the French infantrmen. The gun would never have seen use in North America during even the War of 1812. That doesn't mean it's not a good hunting and fun shooter. Like the U.S. M.1816, which differs but little, they're good shooters for big bore muskets. Have fun.

 

[pepperbelly]

Wes, fun is what it's all about.

Jim

 

[pepperbelly]

The "AnIX" was the updated version of the M.1777 developed during the 9th year of the French Revolution, hence the Roman numeral IX, which would be 1801. It didn't get into wide issue in the Grande Armee until at least 1809. Basically, it differed from the earlier model by a different method of attachment of the barrel bands. Like the earlier M.1777, it was called "the 5 foot clarinet" by the French infantrmen. The gun would never have seen use in North America during even the War of 1812. That doesn't mean it's not a good hunting and fun shooter. Like the U.S. M.1816, which differs but little, they're good shooters for big bore muskets. Have fun.

You know Wes, the more I think about the more I think I better enjoy it. From your info it sounds as if my plan of trading it if I don't like it might not work.
I bought it originally because I got a good deal on it. I never really wanted a musket. I have wanted a flintlock longrifle for a while, preferably one from the F&I period.
Now I wonder if such a trade is even a possibility.

Jim

 

[Rebel]

Yes it is still possible. :grin:

 

[Trkdriver99]

:thumbsup: O yes their are plenty of people looking for a deal on one of them guns, or so I am told.

Ronnie :hatsoff:

 

[torn moc]

ANYTIME I see one listed for sale it goes within a matter of a few days....No Problem...
plenty of Folks out there who dont want to spend
$1000 or so.

 

[Wes/Tex]

I think the others make it obvious that you shouldn't have trouble moving the Charleville if you decide on that outcome. In the meantime, it's just a 14 guage shotgun waiting to be played with! :hatsoff:

 

[ord sgt]

I have one of those sitting in my gun rack. Drilled out the touch-hole since it was too low causing poor ignition problems. Now, I can switch between flint and cap after buying a new lock. Swap out the touch-hole liner and screw in a drum and nipple. Passed N-SSA inspection.

 

[torn moc]

"it's just a 14 guage shotgun waiting to be played with!" I do not agree with that statement...
The Charleville is a musket....period.
Tex....you always aound so negative when talking about French guns....You must realize that there are many who LOVE them...and love other smoothies as well.

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

The Charleville is indeed a fine musket--I think the French muskets and their American offspring are strong contenders to be the best muskets. But due to their versatility, they are also a heavy duty 14 bore shotgun. They can do anything a shotgun can and still serve as a musket. That they can be carried with a sling is just one more plus. Thus, calling one a shotgun is no insult at all, but an acknowledgemnt of its great usefulness and versatility. IMHO. :hatsoff:

 

[MrMarine79]

The "AnIX" was the updated version of the M.1777 developed during the 9th year of the French Revolution, hence the Roman numeral IX, which would be 1801. It didn't get into wide issue in the Grande Armee until at least 1809. Basically, it differed from the earlier model by a different method of attachment of the barrel bands. Like the earlier M.1777, it was called "the 5 foot clarinet" by the French infantrmen. The gun would never have seen use in North America during even the War of 1812. That doesn't mean it's not a good hunting and fun shooter. Like the U.S. M.1816, which differs but little, they're good shooters for big bore muskets. Have fun.

You know Wes, the more I think about the more I think I better enjoy it. From your info it sounds as if my plan of trading it if I don't like it might not work.
I bought it originally because I got a good deal on it. I never really wanted a musket. I have wanted a flintlock longrifle for a while, preferably one from the F&I period.
Now I wonder if such a trade is even a possibility.

Jim

Jim,

If'n you decide you don't like it, I think I might have a spot for it on the other side of the Metroplex. :rotf:

 

[pepperbelly]

Marc, I'll keep that in mind. I haven't shot it yet. When I do I may fall in love with it and just have to buy a longrifle to go with it.

Jim

 

[Wes/Tex]

"it's just a 14 guage shotgun waiting to be played with!" I do not agree with that statement...
The Charleville is a musket....period.
Tex....you always aound so negative when talking about French guns....You must realize that there are many who LOVE them...and love other smoothies as well.

Did'n't mean for the remark to come off negative. The Charleville is no different than any other smoothbore military musket. Excepting their slightly longer hammer fall time, muskets are all good fowlers and can be used as such. The French muskets are even more so since their longer barrels give a longer sighting plane. The M.1777 and it's derivatives, including all the U.S. muskets until the .58 caliber variations came along, were perhaps the finest ever designed.