...wow, i tried these yesterday in my .62 caywood wilson. split one in two ,loaded half about 1" down the bore, then the .600 ball , then the other half, rammed it home...shot better than any patched combo, point of impact was 6" higher, readjusted sight picture, and wow put 4 in a 2" group at 25yds, and was able to land em in the black at 50 yds....was using 80gr 2F and there was a nice "crack" instead of the usual blast... :front: