Bore Butter: who likes it & who doesn't

[Rat Trapper]

Just wondering how many of you all use Bore Butter/wonder lube 1000/wonder lube 1000 plus & wonder lube 2000. I was told by the maker that Bore butter & wonder lube 1000 was the same thing only in different wrapper. Don't know much about the other two, but at least one of you all must know.

 

[roundball]

Just wondering how many of you all use Bore Butter/wonder lube 1000/wonder lube 1000 plus & wonder lube 2000. I was told by the maker that Bore butter & wonder lube 1000 was the same thing only in different wrapper. Don't know much about the other two, but at least one of you all must know.

I use Natural Lube 1000 all the time...
Oxyoke invented Wonder Lube, then under contract to T/C, T/C resells it as Natural Lube.

I believe the term "bore butter" is pretty much used as a generic term when referring to those types of lubes in general...may be wrong on that

 

[Greenjoytj]

The fact that Thompson/Center Natural Lube 1000 Plus aka "Bore Butter" stiffened/froze in the cold put me off it.
Now I use the dry patch system with a Ballistol/water mix.

 

[Stumpkiller]

I have some of the old Ox-Yoke WonderLube (1980's) that came in a red jar. It's thick and white - reminds me of Old Zip Patch Grease but not as successful in my hands. Did not like it at all for patched balls. Worked OK for Maxi-Balls and R.E.A.L.s. The newer Natural Lube from T/C was much improved. I really liked the Natural Lube 1000 except that is too thin and it got onto everything; and the yellow stains clothes.

Shot well in everything I tried and up until I went off on my own mixes it was what I used. I like (and now demand) a lube that allows shooting repeatedly without wiping between shots.

 

[rawhide]

I use wonder lube on my real bullets it works good.

 

[BillinOregon]

"Shot well in everything I tried and up until I went off on my own mixes it was what I used. I like (and now demand) a lube that allows shooting repeatedly without wiping between shots."

Stumpie, would that be the Moose snot?

 

[roundball]

Yes, and makes the point that a topic like this is good example of why its basically impossible to make sweeping across the board statements about a product being great or poor, being the best or the worst...depends on what you're wanting to use it for, and often geography/weather plays a part in it.

NL1000 is the only lube I need and have used for hunting here in NC, as extreme cold doesn't enter into the picture.
And I also like to shoot range sessions without wiping between shots...which I can do with NL1000 patches most of the year here in NC with its typical high humidity...but its not wet enough to do that through the dry/low humidity winter months so a simple solution for me is to just squeeze a couple squirts of Hoppes Plus BP liquid into a bag of pre-lubed patches and go right on...

 

[Pete Gaimari]

I think a patch lube should handle all situations.

Bore butter fails in cold weather.

Mink Oil doesn't.

 

[David W.]

Bore Butter performs poorly in the RUST TEST that was performed. Maybe someone can repost that test. Ballistol was at the top in that catagory.

For cold weather, mink oil works.

 

[S.Kenton]

I use it alot for different applications...patch lube, rust preventitive ( even tho others HATE it for that) and an outside protectant...I've never had an issue with it..EVER. However..I keep my guns dry, and in a low humidity enviroment. I'm sure that helps.

 

[necchi]

I don't like the stuff, but I will give Bill some credibility with this statement,

,, its basically impossible to make sweeping across the board statements about a product being great or poor, being the best or the worst.

Alot of it depends on a persons technique not only with patch lube an loading but storage and all around care.

BButter never worked well for me, I didn't/don't like the stuff it leaves in the bore. And like others I have bought and rescued rifles from gents that can't shoot simply by cleaning the BB out of the bores completely.
(A testement to that shooters technique)
I've learned my techniques through the years by carefully watching and questioning Match winning shooters across the state (many of whom are hunters) and have never seen a top shooter using BoreButter or generally any other store bought lube/cleaning/storage products.

 

[Pete Gaimari]

I use it alot for different applications...patch lube, rust preventitive ( even tho others HATE it for that) and an outside protectant...I've never had an issue with it..EVER. However..I keep my guns dry, and in a low humidity enviroment. I'm sure that helps.

There's a good reason to hate it for rust protection.
http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experiments/corrosion/corrosion2.html

 

[Stumpkiller]

"Shot well in everything I tried and up until I went off on my own mixes it was what I used. I like (and now demand) a lube that allows shooting repeatedly without wiping between shots."

Stumpie, would that be the Moose snot?

Yep. Quite often I use twice dipped & dried patching strips with Moose Juice. But I prefer a greased patch with Moose Snot and my first load on any day is that way to get the bore well "slathered". It's a little messier and means I have to carry more, but seems to pay off for loading ease and eventual clean up.

 

[rabjr]

I used it for years with no problem here. Probably would still be using it today if it wasn't for the fact of being handed a small bottle of bear oil when I first got into flintlocks. I've been making my own lube and find no more need for "bore butter".

 

[PaulN/KS]

Been using it for years.
It does get stiff when it's real cold but, heck, so do I... :wink:

 

[Pete Gaimari]

Been using it for years.
It does get stiff when it's real cold but, heck, so do I... :wink:

Good thing we aren't rubbing you on a patch.

 

[wayne1967]

My fouling seemed to build up when I tried it. I mixed up some Stumpy's moose snot a couple of years ago and have been using it ever since.

 

[hanshi]

I've posted before that I am not a fan of "Bore Butter" type bought lubes. I realize, now, this statement probably needs more clarification than I've given it.

Cons: 1. poor for rust prevention, better than nothing, but who uses nothing? 2. Lousy patch lube for regular use, IMHO; always seems to gum up the bore. 3. cost.

Pro: The green stuff smells good to me; Crisco does not! 2. I've always lived in the Southeast so weather extremes are not really an issue. 3. The yellow version is as "okay" as the green. 4. It is the best lube I've encountered for the first load going into the woods. If you don't fire the gun you can keep it loaded for months without damage; can't do that with with my two favorites. 5. We have lots of bears but mink are in short supply and frisky to squeeze :rotf: .

 

[Pete Gaimari]

I've posted before that I am not a fan of "Bore Butter" type bought lubes. I realize, now, this statement probably needs more clarification than I've given it.

Cons: 1. poor for rust prevention, better than nothing, but who uses nothing? 2. Lousy patch lube for regular use, IMHO; always seems to gum up the bore. 3. cost.

Pro: The green stuff smells good to me; Crisco does not! 2. I've always lived in the Southeast so weather extremes are not really an issue. 3. The yellow version is as "okay" as the green. 4. It is the best lube I've encountered for the first load going into the woods. If you don't fire the gun you can keep it loaded for months without damage; can't do that with with my two favorites. 5. We have lots of bears but mink are in short supply and frisky to squeeze :rotf: .

You have to sneak up on the Mink when they're sleeping.

 

[Stumpkiller]

I've said before the best way to get moose snot is to find an adult moose sleeping and quielty place a bucket in front of its nose. Then tiptoe behind to the other end and gently lift the tail while jabbing an 18" icicle [CENSORED - CENSORED - CENSORED] best when you have a partner standing somewhere in front of the moose 'cause that moose'll take after him once his eyes stop from spinning and leave you to collect the bucket.

Good shooting!