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I was taught to shoot a rifle with one eye shut and shoot a shotgun with both eyes open. Now that i'm older and the eyes aren't what they once were. :bull: :shake: I cheat a little with the rifle and will open both eyes till just before i start to squeeze the trigger and then my left eye will start to slowly shut.I shoot with the set trigger set and it don't take alot of pressure to make the rifle go off. So i'm not sure if the eye is completly closed of not,but i never notice the flash. :wink:
 
I originally shut one eye when firing a rifle or a pistol as a kid. Then the first time I used a scope on a deer rifle, I was told to keep my other eye open so I could quickly reacquire the target if it moved out of the field of the scope. That wasn't nearly as difficult as I thought it'd be and that's what I do with a scoped rifle.

I started to shoot a shotgun by aiming it much like a rifle. Then I learned about the instinctive shooting method of using a firearm that builds on your ability to instinctively point at what you are looking at. Then low and behold, I found out that I was sometimes left-eye dominant and sometimes right eye dominant....NOT a good thing. If you are a right handed shooter and left eye dominant, you will virtually always shoot behind the bird. So now I squint a little to force my right eye to take over, use a "magic dot" on my shooting glasses over my left eye. If I don't have a stick-on dot, I'll just smear some chap stick on the lens over my left eye. In that case I keep both eyes open.

Still with open sights on a rifle, I'm usually sighting with one eye closed....I'm so confused... :rotf: :rotf:

Twisted_1in66
 
Many shooters suffer what is called a " lazy eye", when in fact, its simply a failure of the brain to focus intently on the vision through one eye. Using some kind of blurring device on the non-dominant eye glass, such as a piece of scotch tape, allows the shooter to see peripherally, but does not allow the eye to look down the barrel at the sight.

This practice, used regularly, with lots of "dry-firing practice at home", will usually cure the problem for the shooter after about 2,000 correct repetitions. The Reason for such a high number is that the Brain got lazy in how it uses the Dominant Eye from other reasons, long before the person became a shooter.

Closing the non-dominant eye causes vision to blur, and tricks the brain into looking through the Dominant eye, also, because when we close the eye part way, the eye lashes come together to interfere with vision.

Shooting a pistol or revolver one handed is also a good way that any rifle or shotgun shooter with a "lazy eye " problem can retrain his dominant eye( and brain) to concentrate on that eye's vision of the sights and target, rather than changing over to the non-dominant eye at the last instance. One-hand pistol shooting puts the rear of the gun far away from the dominant eye, and lets the brain accept the sound of the gunshot, without being afraid that the gun is going to injure the eye.

Most of this problem occurs because the shooter has developed a "flinch" and is mentally afraid to fire the shot, when shooting a shotgun or rifle.

The Dominant eye closes at the last instance before the gun is fired, and the brain turns to the non-dominant eye to see the sights. The non-dominant eye is well away from the stock of the shotgun or rifle, so it does not see that sudden jolt backward of the barrel and stock towards the eye. It doesn't see the knuckle on the hand, wrapped incorrectly over the wrist of the stock, coming back at both the eye and cheek under the dominant eye.

Shooting Coaches and instructors will have the shooter mount an unloaded gun to their face, point it at the instructor's eye, and pull the trigger. This allows the instructor to see when the dominant eye closes. He can also stand to the side of the gun and watch where the shooter's face is in relation to the comb, and the wrist, what the shooter does with his thumb( it should NOT wrap over the wrist, but instead should lay down along the side of the stock, parallel to the index finger on the trigger below).

A short LOP, and a thumb wrapped over the wrist of the stock, can lead to the thumb striking the cheek below the dominant eye, hard enough to hurt, and leave a bruise after several such shots. Some people will " choke up" on a stock that has too long a LOP for them, causing the face to get to far forward on the comb.

A Stock with too much pitch can also place the face too far forward on the comb, allowing the knuckle to strike the cheek.

All these things can be easily observed by the coach or instructor, if he knows what to look for, and what it means when he sees it. He doesn't have to have the shooter shoot a box of shells, or swing at a dozen birds with his MLers to figure out where the Eye-Switch problem originates. It is not unusual to find a combination of sources behind the problem. :hmm:

If you don't have a shooting coach or instructor available near you, ask an experienced, and successful shooter you know to watch how you mount the gun, and watch your eye to see when you close it before the shot is fired. This can be done with live fire, if the instructor stands slightly forward of the shooter, but behind the muzzle for safety, on the dominant side of the shooter, so that he can see clearly the movement of the dominant eye lid when the gun is fired. Simply moving further away from the side of the gun will will let the observer see how the shooter mounts the gun, and what he does with that thumb. :shocked2: :hmm: :thumbsup:
 
Thanks I'm glad I read this thread. :wink: I dont have a shooting coach, but good advice goes a long way. :thumbsup:
 
FYI, for THE best book ever written about the neurological, biological, physical, and mental aspects of aiming and shooting ... check this book out! My personal offhand Schuetzen scores rose after reading AND practicing aspects from this tome.

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by A.A. Yur'Yev

Although a tad dated by copyright date, the science is dead on. The only major critique of this book is that it only covered competitive rifle and free-pistol-type of shooting ... meaning noting like PPC or 3-gun etc.
 
Well, Dan, it is said that misery loves company so welcome! Thought I was the only one around whose dominant eye checks came in mixed. I mix the both open and kinda squint the left one as someone else said.

Re scatter gunnin', I learned I have to close the left when mounting a shotgun so the right will take over or I sure as hell miss. I then try to keep both eyes open.

TC
 
I did happen to notice for the first time the other evening at the range, that it became necessary for me to squint my non-aiming eye as the light began to fade. I've never had to do this before. I'm a both eyes open shooter, but I wasn't able to see the sights as it got darker. :hmm: :idunno:
 
I can't train my eyes / brain to do this. I guess it's the old dog new tricks thing. When I am shooting trap I keep both eyes open until I make out the the flight path of the bird. Then I close my left eye so I am only looking at one barrel and one bird.
 
I guess maybe it's a "whatever works for you" kinda thing. If you are getting good groups with both eyes open, or one eye closed, go with it. Everyone is different, and there is always more than one way to skin a cat. I guess that's why we have Sleep Number beds, sliding car seats with lumbar support, and bottle or draft beer! :thumbsup: :shocked2: :grin:
 
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