BP Revolvers

[lorren68]

I am trading for a pair of revolvers with 4 extra cylinders tomorrow. I will be needing help getting up and running as this will be my first foray in to bp revolvers.

 

[Drago]

They are fun, just go slow follow safe practices, Which model are you getting?

 

[lorren68]

1858 Navy.

 

[cynthialee]

sweet

 

[nilo52]

You will find a priceless amount of smarts here on the forum. I congratulate you on your new hobby path, your gonna LOVE IT
NILO52

 

[Many Klatch]

Depending on what maker the guns are they may take .451 ball, .454 or even .458. Don't buy any roundball until you check in with us. I have a pair of 1858 one is an ASM and the other is a Pietta and they both take different sized ball.

Many Klatch

 

[lorren68]

Here is what I got in my trade today

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[cynthialee]

spiffy!

You are ready for a battle!
:grin:

You need to get cylender holders for your belt now.

 

[lorren68]

I discovered that one of the pistols has a broken spring, on the trigger. Does anyone know where I can get parts? It is the spring that makes the detent in the bottom of the frame engage the cylinder.

 

[cynthialee]

I just take broken guns to a smith. I only know how to shoot them and do basic cleaning and serviceing.

 

[lorren68]

I prefer to fix my own guns, I just need a parts supplier.

 

[Poor Private]

You can get parts from Dixie. I use them all the time they may be a bit higher than some but I have had no problems getting them. What I do is buy the piece I need then buy a complete set of internals. Should only cost you about 20 bucks.

 

[lorren68]

thanks, i also need to order some rb for the guns, I think I need 454 diameter. I hope some one chimes in with some load data soon.

 

[cynthialee]

Between 15-30 grains of 3f or pyrodex P, and a .454 round ball should work fine and dandy.
Adding fillers like wads or meal to bring the ball closser to the barrel is a good idea. Less jump distace the better.

Likely somewhere between 17-25 grains will be the sweet spot.
Each of those cylenders likely will have a differant sweet load. Also there can be variation on individuale chambers.
Personaly, I load them so I can hit center mass at 10-20 yards and don't worry about groups.

 

[hanshi]

I hope you'll still be able to look at yourself in the mirror after cheating that guy. :rotf:

 

[necchi]

Order extra springs, If you break one the gun is out of commision.
Extra,
Main Spring
Hand & Spring
Bolt Spring.

You'll see what they are soon enough, and outfit called VTI has parts also take a look for blow-apart diagrams. http://www.vtigunparts.com/

 

[lorren68]

I did not make the offer, He did. I did not know it would come with all the extras, I thought I was just getting 2 revolvers and the extra cylinders.

I talked to the guy in person when we met up for the trade, he said he did Civil War reenacting. I asked him about load data and he said he had never fired a ball out of either gun just powder and cream of wheat. I stripped both guns and while the cylinders and barrel were clean, the rest of the internals needed a good cleaning.

 

[lorren68]

Just thought i would add, I dont think these are 1858 Navy revolvers, I belive they are 1860 Remington New Army.

 

[Zonie]

The Remington New Model Navy is a .36 caliber pistol.

The Remington New Model Army is a .44.

While talking about the Remington revolvers made for the military, all of them were made during and after 1861.

The "1858" everyone uses when describing these Remingtons is the Patent date for the general design but the only revolvers Remington was making in 1858 were a couple of small pretty ugly pocket pistols.

This is neat to know but you shooters who live overseas might not want to broadcast it to the authorities.
I understand some of the laws over there that permit owning a cap & ball pistol require that the production of the guns had to be before 1860?

 

[lorren68]

I checked with them, and they were out of stock. I just ordered the spring from DGW.