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Dave K

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I went through the "search" looking for answers, and maybe I don't know the right questions. Any rate, it seems to be so much confusion on which brand Pietta, Uberti, etc. is possibly the favored brand.I am sure each brand has it strong and weak points. Also which is more historically correct. Then I look at the catalogs(Midsouth, Cabela', MidWay) and some stores offer an extra cyl. and some even offer a c-fire cyl. Both of these would be very handy features! Then there is fluted cyl., blued, color case hardened. Is there a place to go learn more about these guns? I am not saying price is no object, but I don't want to be a penny smart and dollars dumb.I would rather buy the right one, the first time, regardless of cost.
 
Some folk swear that Uberti is better, and from what I can see their prices are a bit higher. I have a Pietta 1860 Colt clone that I am very happy with. I have only had it since September, so who knows about long term durability, but the color on the frame is good, the bluing looks good, and everything seems to work well. Only two very minor complaints:

1) The screw on the bottom of the grip was in sooo tight I boogered it removing it (yes, I used the right screwdriver!). But I didn't butcher it too bad, and I smoothed it and reblued it and all is well.

2) The wood was a little proud on the grip at the top on the right hand side. I mean a little. Three strokes with fine sandpaper fixed that.

So I am very happy with the fit finish and (so far) function of my Pietta.
 
I have revolvers from both companies and I think there is very little difference between them as far as durability, fit and finish and performance.
 
I had a couple of Pietas and was not pleased. There were mechanical problems with the first which I sent back and cosmetic with the second which I traded for a Uberti and was far happier with the Uberti.

CS
 
I think for overall look, feel and quality Cimarron is the way to go. Cimarron uses Uberti but from what I understand they fine tune the revolver and you can even have an aged look to it for an extra cost. I have an 1860 colt by them and have compared it to the Pietta model and there is a difference. I also bought an 1858 remmington by Uberti and have compared it to the Pietta model and I like my Uberti a little more. Here is a link to Cimarron that you can see for yourself if you have not already done so.
Cimarron
Pietta is a good product and if cost is the thing then I would go with them. If you want to know what is better look at some of the gun sales and you can see that Cimarron / Uberti sells at a higher cost also. :v
 
I'd echo the old master. I have a Pietta Remington and an Uberti Colt, and I can't say one is made better than the other. Fit & finish seem to be fine on both. Grips are a little nicer on the Uberti, but that's all I can say there.
 
Uberti is likely to have fewer and less serious problems than Pietta and the parts are more widely distributed. Pietta has a distrubing tendency to ignore after purchase services. Parts for the Starr Revolvers and LeMats are not available domestically and must be back-ordered from Italy. Nevertheless, Pietta can make good, accurate guns- revolvers and long guns when they decide to do so.
Cimarron arms/Texas jacks are closely aligned and are a good source for Uberti Revolvers and replacement parts. They also do some custom finish and engraving work on them and the dude at Cimarron is largely responsible for the current high quality of a broad selection of Uberti revolvers both caplock and centerfire.

VTI gunparts is a good source of parts for both.

When doing business mail order, read the fine print and determine the original souce for the gun. Stay far far away from anything made by Palmetto Arms.
 
Several years ago Colt started producing caplock revolvers "again". It was a really big deal and they were expensive. Uberti made them for Colt. That tells me something about Uberti, but besides that they have a really good reputation.
 
At about the same time, Western Arms and then Allen firearms were importing non-colt-marked revolvers. The colts and those guns were extra well-finished with real bone-charcoal case hardening and silver plated grip frames.
 
Thanks for the feed back! I really LOVE those color case hardened frames.
 
Having owned and handled several different Ubertis and Piettas, I can say that Uberti definitely has better quality control. It is possible to get a very nice Pietta, it's just more of a crapshoot than with Uberti. Also, as mec noted, parts for Pietta are (as far as I know) quite difficult to come by, wheras, Uberti parts are plentiful. Uberti used to offer parts themselves (though I haven't bought from them in over a year, so I'm not sure if they still do). Also, Gun Parts Corp. has a full list of parts available for just about any Uberti you can name. :) Check this out:
http://www.e-gunparts.com/model.asp?idDept=4
 
Colt bought rough forgings and some rough castings from Uberti. The guns were built in the U.S.A. and are genuine Colts. You won't find any foreign proof marks on these revolvers nor any other marks save those that went on the original guns. The "C" and "F" series guns are of high quality and are becoming more valuable.
The 3rd generation or "Signature Series" guns were also made here, but generally weren't up to the quality of the first and second generation guns.
 
My 2 cents worth. I own a Pietta Remington and it of very good quality. I purchased a Uberti Paterson years ago and sent it back. Out of the box, when I cocket the hammer, the mechanism broke. I sent it back and got my money back. I do own a Uberti Sante Fe Hawken and it is nice. I purchased a Uberti Henry. Each time I received it from Cabela's ($800 bucks plus), the stock had finishing flaws - big drip marks on the butt stock - absolutely not acceptable for any price. I sent it back and got another with a worse finish on the stock. I got them at Cabela's. Either Cabela's was getting "seconds" or quality control of the Uberti's needs something to be desired. Needless to say I don't own a Henry. Maybe now that Beretta owns Uberti, quality control has improved.

I am impressed with Pedersoli. I have a Pedersoli Tryon, 12 ga. double, Bess, Charleville, Kentucky pistol. All of outstanding quality. They send a video with each firearm they sell and their operation is impressive. Too bad their prices are going up so much. (Just makes what I have worth a little more) But this does leave a market opening for U.S. craftsmen. I would certainly rather pay a couple of hundred bucks more for a U.S. made ML. Not that I'm a rich guy or nothing, but I would rather buy American.
Just my humble opinion.
Patriot
 
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