Hi there, I am going to start building a Creedmoor style rifle with Rigby overtones so I can take on the world at next years World Creedmoor in Brisbane in September. I wanted to know if anyone had any recommendations for length of barrel and brand names of good sights for use on such a rifle. Thanks :hatsoff:
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Building a Creedmoor ... well sort of!
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You should contact Joe at J. Cunard, he shoots the matches in England and around the USA. He can be reached at: [email protected].
Mark
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Wolfbane: I can't afford one of the excellent Pedersoli Gibbs long-range rifles just now, so plan to build a rifle myself. Do you know what the rules are for the Brisbane competition?
And by the way, Joe Hepsworth is a great fellow and an active shooter.
And by the way, Joe Hepsworth is a great fellow and an active shooter.
ResearchPress
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Information on the World Creedmoor can be found at www.worldcreedmoor.org.
When's Australia going to compete in the MLAIC World Championships (www.mlaic.org)? The 6th MLAIC World Long Range Muzzle Loading Championships are likely to be held in South Africa in 2007. Information on this years World Championships can be found at www.mlagb.com/bisley2005.
By the way, whats a "Creedmoor style rifle with Rigby overtones"? :hmm: Maybe you mean a Rigby style rifle with Creedmoor overtones? :grin:
Creedmoor was the US rifle range where some of the 19th century long range international matches were held in the 1870's. The so called 'Creedmoor Rifles' were breech loaders. The muzzle loading match rifles fired there were of British origin.
The US was a bit slow in getting off the mark with long range target shooting - well over a decade behind the British. By the time they got into the game they were shooting breech loaders (somewhat successfully too!).
David
When's Australia going to compete in the MLAIC World Championships (www.mlaic.org)? The 6th MLAIC World Long Range Muzzle Loading Championships are likely to be held in South Africa in 2007. Information on this years World Championships can be found at www.mlagb.com/bisley2005.
By the way, whats a "Creedmoor style rifle with Rigby overtones"? :hmm: Maybe you mean a Rigby style rifle with Creedmoor overtones? :grin:
Creedmoor was the US rifle range where some of the 19th century long range international matches were held in the 1870's. The so called 'Creedmoor Rifles' were breech loaders. The muzzle loading match rifles fired there were of British origin.
The US was a bit slow in getting off the mark with long range target shooting - well over a decade behind the British. By the time they got into the game they were shooting breech loaders (somewhat successfully too!).
David
Bill, the rules for the the World Creedmoor can be found at[url] http://www.worldcreedmoor.org/.[/url] The rules allow BP cartridge rifles and ML rifles, but all must be of the style of rifles built prior to 1900.
David: thank you for your honour's correction. I am new to this ML game, so I would be hard pressed to know a Rigby from a Lyman! I can't tell you when Australia is going to compete in the world ML championships, though ML shooting in general is very rapidly gaining in popularity.
My basic plan is this. I am going to buy a .45 cal ML for the action, and then fit a target barrel to it in the same calibre. I will fit a tang sight as well. Thanks for the Montana Valley Arms link. I expected those prices for tang sights, so it doesn't bother me any.
David: thank you for your honour's correction. I am new to this ML game, so I would be hard pressed to know a Rigby from a Lyman! I can't tell you when Australia is going to compete in the world ML championships, though ML shooting in general is very rapidly gaining in popularity.
My basic plan is this. I am going to buy a .45 cal ML for the action, and then fit a target barrel to it in the same calibre. I will fit a tang sight as well. Thanks for the Montana Valley Arms link. I expected those prices for tang sights, so it doesn't bother me any.
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Australia hosted the 19th MLAIC (Short Range) World Championships in 2000 at Adelaide. These short range events are held every two years and cater for musket, rifle, pistol, revolver and shotgun.
That same year the first Long Range World Championship was held at Bisley in the UK. It was held there again in 2001, South Africa 2002, USA 2003, Bisley (UK) 2005. I was in the GB team 2001, 2003 and 2005.
I look forward to the year Australia can host the World Long Range Championships!
David
That same year the first Long Range World Championship was held at Bisley in the UK. It was held there again in 2001, South Africa 2002, USA 2003, Bisley (UK) 2005. I was in the GB team 2001, 2003 and 2005.
I look forward to the year Australia can host the World Long Range Championships!
David
Well come out to Brisbane for the Creedmoor next year and drum up support! :grin: I will even promise that if you don't have enough guys for the team event I will shoot for the Poms .... that is if I know how to use this rifle well enough to be of any use.
ResearchPress
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It was late last night when I put those dates in! :snore: World Champs for long range have been held in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2005. Next is 2007.
Love to get to Brisbane, but unfortunately I need to save for the 2007 Championships in South Africa.
By the way there are several Australians who are members of the Long Range Muzzle Loader discussion list.
David
Love to get to Brisbane, but unfortunately I need to save for the 2007 Championships in South Africa.
By the way there are several Australians who are members of the Long Range Muzzle Loader discussion list.
David
Wolfbane: For what it is worth, I am planning to build my rifle on the Pete Allen "Wesson"-style action with Green Mountain barrel, probably a .400/.408 with 1:14.5 twist for a heavy PP bullet.
Wolfbane:
Brownell's sells Green Mountain cartridge barrels in 45 caliber, 1 turn in 18. They have two different sizes octagon barrels. One is 1.05 inches across the flats at the breech and .950 inches across the flats at the muzzle. The other is 1.12 across the flats at the breech and 1.08 across the flats at the muzzle. Both barrels are 35 inches long. These should make you a good Creedmoor gun.
Olie
Brownell's sells Green Mountain cartridge barrels in 45 caliber, 1 turn in 18. They have two different sizes octagon barrels. One is 1.05 inches across the flats at the breech and .950 inches across the flats at the muzzle. The other is 1.12 across the flats at the breech and 1.08 across the flats at the muzzle. Both barrels are 35 inches long. These should make you a good Creedmoor gun.
Olie
Wolfbane:
I am not sure what to say. I don't know just what you are going to shoot. If you are going to shoot mid range (up to 600 yards), I think that a 40 caliber fast twist (1 turn in 14.5 or 16) barrel would do but if you are going to shoot lond rang (up to 1000 yards)I would think that a 45 caliber barrel with a fast twist (1turn in 18) would be the best. A twist of 1 turn in 20 is O.K. but I wonder if you can shoot a heavy enough bullet to go 1000 yards.
Also I think that the barrel should be heavy if you are going to shoot 1000 yards. If it is too light it will kick like a mule.
If you have a Brownell catalog look in the front where they have barrels. They sell Green mountain barrel for Black powder Cartradge guns. If you get one of these you can breech it with a heavy patent breech plug and muzzle load it. You need a heavy breech plug because of the extra breech pressures.
Hope this helps
Olie
I am not sure what to say. I don't know just what you are going to shoot. If you are going to shoot mid range (up to 600 yards), I think that a 40 caliber fast twist (1 turn in 14.5 or 16) barrel would do but if you are going to shoot lond rang (up to 1000 yards)I would think that a 45 caliber barrel with a fast twist (1turn in 18) would be the best. A twist of 1 turn in 20 is O.K. but I wonder if you can shoot a heavy enough bullet to go 1000 yards.
Also I think that the barrel should be heavy if you are going to shoot 1000 yards. If it is too light it will kick like a mule.
If you have a Brownell catalog look in the front where they have barrels. They sell Green mountain barrel for Black powder Cartradge guns. If you get one of these you can breech it with a heavy patent breech plug and muzzle load it. You need a heavy breech plug because of the extra breech pressures.
Hope this helps
Olie
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Hi
You should try Petaconia they have a parts set
for making a Rigby Target rifle.
Jeff
You should try Petaconia they have a parts set
for making a Rigby Target rifle.
Jeff
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