buying used rifles online? where?

[armedOkie]

Im looking into getting my first flintlock. Ive done enough research to know i wont be hapoy with a cheaper indian made gun, and have started looking at a slightly higher tier as budget allows. I may end up caving and buying a pedersoli pennsylvania in 32 cal with the 40+ inch barrel. With some patina on the brass and a darker stain it may look quite nice. Id really like a custom gun, though, and have started looking online at used rifles around 800-1200 dollars. My ideal gun has a stripe-tastic maple stock and a big 44 inch barrel, 32-40 caliber. Definitely not less than 42 inch barrel. My issue is finding used flinters. Are there some secret places to look i havent heard of? Ive tried the usual gunsamerica, gunsinternational, etc with little luck. Hello, from an okie newb

 

[Vaino]

Is it allowed to post the names of other websites that offer MLers for sale?.....Fred

 

[sb 54 cal.]

go to the contemporary longrifle assoc. web sight and look at the for sale items. Bought a southern mountain rifle in .40 cal with a 44 inch rice barrel. You have to keep looking to find what you want for what you want to spend.
Pappy

 

[bpd303]

Track of the Wolf has some production flintlocks along with custom guns. http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/487/2

Might try Dixie Gun Works. http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=21&osCsid=3ci7nkts6sc8je43j2pla1kcf4

 

[BrownBear]

I've had really fair treatment from both Track of the Wolf and from The Gun Works in Oregon. Both have extensive listings, and they're updated fairly often. Always worth a check back, even when you don't find exactly what you want at the moment.

 

[armedOkie]

Ah! I hadn't thought about the gun works, or the longrifle assoc. Thanks everyone. Wish me luck.

 

[Coot]

Traditional muzzleloaders are a very small portion of the gun market and you may need to monitor multiple sites for many months before you see something that appeals to you. In the mean time, it will give you an appreciation of what is (& is not out there) & prices. I have used all of the following. All these have websites:

Track of the Wolf - good pictures, good service, accessories & parts. Good to do business with.

Clay Smith Guns - a Williamsburg trained gunsmith who both makes guns & kits and sells other's guns on consignment - good pictures, good service, honest opinions.

Gunbroker - a mix of sellers, some with better pictures & knowledge than others.

CLA (Contemporary Longrifle Association) - a mix of sellers on their site with a lot of great horns, bags, knives, guns & etc. Some pictures better than others. Really good if you can go to their annual show. (With lots of money)

Dixie Guns - a good number available but unless they have recently changed, poor pictures - I would have to go in person

 

[faste350]

i was in the same position as you a year ago. looked at custom kits, looked at have one built at TVM and other places and kept looking on line. finally saw one on gun gunbroker that was pretty much what i was looking for. talked to the guy a couple times and ended up buying it. paid 950.00 for it. tennessee style, walnut stock, 32 cal, 38 inch douglas xx barrel, l&r replacement lock, banana patch box, all brown finish. figured i would have some small things to do to it, which i did, but that i was willing to do. the gun appears to be built in the 1970's give or take. awesome gun, i couldn't have had one built any better that handles and feels as right as this gun. started hunting woodchucks with it in the middle of august and have shot 38 with it. next week, squirrel season! keep looking, they are out there!

 

[rich pierce]

A used gun in the hand is easier to evaluate. Trade blankets at rondys, Friendship, or shoots sometimes have good values.

 

[MSW]

Mr. Pierce makes a good point ... there's nothing like holding an item in your hands to see if it's "the one-" balance, texture and that sort of thing just don't transmit through the e- waves.

Having said that, you might want to check this out: http://sittingfoxmuzzleloaders.com/k-2/

of course, if you go down this path, all common sense will forsake you.

don't ask me how I know ... (is a sign of indecision to have three builds going at once?)

 

[ChrisPer]

If there are clubs in your region that shoot BP, wander along. Many members will have one or two for sale 'if someone asks'. Clubs often have a notice board with For Sale posts, and may also have emailed 'trading post' listings.

Usually there will be a BP collector/enthusiast somewhere in the region who is a home dealer, and may have a couple of good items to choose from too.

These same people have networks - the dealer/collector in Skunk Hollow knows another in Tombstone and the best three in the surrounding states. ASK and they will refer you. If you want something nice and are willing to pay a realistic price, just go looking. Don't limit yourself to online.

 

[Snakebite]

Post on the "Public Events" under "General Muzzleloading" to see if there are any clubs in your area.

 

[armedOkie]

Thanks everyone. I'd love to find some traditional bp shooters in the OKC area, but it seems to be slim Pickens around here. I've also upped my potential budget towards 1500 and am looking at new guns. Does that open up some options? Looking at a couple, and talked with ray, from sitting fox so far. Can't get in touch with one other guy I've tried, and TVM told me it may be near a year before I get a gun in my hands :0

 

[armedOkie]

Post on the "Public Events" under "General Muzzleloading" to see if there are any clubs in your area.

Will do!

 

[Rick Boylan]

I've had good luck buying my first flintlock off of a guy on GunBroker. I bought a Pedersoli Kentucky in .45. It's a sweet shooter and looks great to boot. Make sure to check the FFL options on the sale though. There are some sellers who still require an FFL to ship the gun to even though it's not legally needed. :youcrazy:

 

[54ball]

Why not buy the best you can reasonably afford?

I Know you want a small caliber rifle but you may want to think about a smoothbore. Good for small game, upland fowl like dove with shot and deer or hog size game with ball.

Here are some great options close to your price range.

Link Brooks Carolina in the white

Link Blue type G available in red, or in the white

In the white means you do final finish.

Ben Coogle also makes a version of this gun but you would have to look him up.

 

[FishDFly]

I've had really fair treatment from both Track of the Wolf and from The Gun Works in Oregon. Both have extensive listings, and they're updated fairly often. Always worth a check back, even when you don't find exactly what you want at the moment.

If I was forced to buy without handling it, Brown bear's advice is as good as there is.

TOW packaging is second to none. They are honest folks and have a return policy.

The Gun Works are very nice folks, Joe and Suszy I trust, I am repeat buyer.

Shipping only USPS, no way for UPS.

I would make an 8 hour road trip to inspect a rifle versus ordering from auctions.

No three (3) day inspection, no buy.

 

[armedOkie]

I replied with photos and my post was moved to photos in a new thread which makes no sense whatsoever. Why can I not post photos relevant to our conversation?


Oh well, I bought a gun, here's a link to that topic.
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/.../tid/291336/pid/1434063/post/1434063/#1434063

 

[Zonie]

I'm answering your question here so others new to the forum will avoid your mistake.

If you want to reply to something in a Topic your reading, either use the Quick Reply box (that will assume you are responding to the last person to post a comment), or hit the Reply button on one of the other peoples post.

Down at the bottom of all Topics is a box that says, "Add Topic".

This box is for people who are tired of reading the stuff in the topic they are in and want to start a brand new topic. It is not for readers who are replying to people or subjects in existing posts.

As soon as you hit the "Add Topic" button the computer will say to itself, "Well. He's done with that topic and wants to start one of his own about something else."
"I wonder what it will be? This not knowing makes my job difficult so, I'll just put a box up at the top that says, "Subject" and a place for him to write whatever he has to say.
If he pokes the "Add Post" button, I'll just enter it into the index as a brand new post about something different." And, that's exactly what it does.

You will have a brand new Topic that isn't tied to any other topic on the forum.

Then, a moderator comes along and says to himself, "What's this? It seems to be about showing a photo of this guys guns so I'll move it to that forum. It sure doesn't belong in the forum that talks about shooting Flintlock rifles."

Buttons are pushed, directions are made and POOF!
Your post is moved to the photo section.

The bottom line is, if you are wanting your comments to appear in the Topic your reading, do not poke the "ADD TOPIC" button.

 

[armedOkie]

I'm an *****! :rotf:

I must have accidentally clicked that button a million times so far, but have always caught it beforehand until now. Thank you for your patience!