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Teach

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I just received a 20g Carolina Fowler from TOTW last week. I had it out twice already to the range, fired about 40 shots :grin:
I haven't had this much fun since the pigs ate my little brother :grin:
If I had known it was this much fun I'd bought one long time ago.
Could someone recommend a good load for trap shooting ? thinkin' I might like to try it with the fowler.
Cheers Teach.
 
I used my Carolina style .20 ga smoothbore the other day to shoot some with my portable trap. I used 50 gr of Goex 3f powder an overpowder wad, 7/8 oz of #7/12 shot and an overshot card. Worked good and hardly any recoil.
 
Teach said:
I just received a 20g Carolina Fowler from TOTW last week.If I had known it was this much fun I'd bought one long time ago.
Cheers Teach.
Congratulations, Teach. But we needs some pics of you having fun. :rotf:
 
My load is so close to Rebel's, I would call it the same. Don't know if this is different or not, but the cushion I use is the fiber ones. I cut them about 3/16" to 1/4" thick and lube them with olive oil. I really only use the cushion to carry lube down the bore, so I can shoot all day with out "fouling out"? For me, a full thickness cushion (about 1/2" thick) will just make my patterns poor with a donut shaped hole in the pattern.
 
Try Iron Jim Rackham's idea of using only Over Shot ( OS) cards to load your gun. put small holes in the side areas of each card, back enough from the edge so that the edge does not collapse going down the barrel. Orient the cards so that each hole is covered by the next card. 12, 3,6,& 9 o'clock will do the trick. Seat those 4 on your powder charge. Start with 55 grains( 2 drams) and go up or down from there to see what patterns the best out of your gun, with the shot size you choose. 1 oz. of shot is going to be enough, and 7/8 oz should be just as good. Use two of the OS cards on top of the shot, one hole at 12 and the second at 6 O'clock. That will hold the shot in all day and then some.

To lube the barrel put a lubed patch on your cleaning jag( and loading jag) and either run it down the barrel as you seat those two OS cards on top of the shot, or simply lube the barrel with a second stroke after you have seated the OS cards. The lube will protect your barrel all day long, even in the rain, you will have enough lube to soften any fouling that might stay in the barrel on firing, and that fouling can be easily removed with a patch run down after each shot. You should get a little extra velocity with the barrel lubed this way, but the average velocity and SDV of your loads will be reduced considerably, giving you more consistent patterns, shot for shot. That is important, as many ML shotgun and smoothie shooters complain of not being able to get any consistency with their pattern.

Jim's reason for using the OS cards, only, is that since each is light weight, and the hole in each of them lets air separate the cards, they fall to the ground and out of the line of the shot fairly soon after leaving the barrel. The oiled, or lubed cushion wads--even the half wads some men are using - tend to follow the shot, and may blow the pattern into a donut hole, with little or no shot in the core circle of the pattern, but lots of shot in an outer ring. That might work for skeet shooting, but not for hunting.

All you can do is pattern your gun, and do your own testing. Use newspaper at 25 yds to test different loading components. Then move your pattern board back to 30 yds, to see what kind of performance you get with various combinations of powder loads and shot loads. Buy a can of the cheapest spray paint to use to put an aiming point on your paper. If you buy " Krylon paint " it will dry almost before you get back to your gun. Just a squirt of the paint in the middle of the target should be sufficient to replica most clay targets at that distance. I use black, but have also shot at blaze orange, and red. I don't think the color is as important as the contrast with the newsprint you use. I don't think I would recommend using light yellow or pink, or light green for this work.

In my personal experience, I have had full cushion wads actually hit the paper at 25 yards when I had lubed them with moose milk. I started using half a cusion wad and that helped. I still have to get out and try Jim's system myself. But, enough people here have tried it with good results for me to abandon using half cushion wads, and Over powder cards, and switch to using only OS cards, only. It makes taking components into the field a lot more simple. ( anytime you can use the KISS principle, you are probably much better off!)

OH, I almost forgot. Check the actual bore diameter of that new gun before you go ordering wads. My 20 gauge fowler barrel is oversized, and I had to order 19 ga. cards. 20 gauge is nominally .615. My barrel measured .627" Use a caliper to measure your bore diameter, and order the correct sized components. In my gun, the 20 ga. cards would not seal the bore, or hold the shot in place! They surely were easy getting down the barel, even without any hole in them to let out the air.
 
Thanks folks, all valuable info, as soon as I get some wads and cards I'll try those loads.
Cpl Parker and I are shooting a candy cannon downtown on Sat the merchants have the street blocked off for the day & we were invited.
We'll be firing blanks as well from our smoothies :grin: I'll see if I can take some pics.
Cheers Teach.
 
Took this the other night, we made a video of the fowler in pitch black conditions.you can see it in the photo forum, along with some stills from the video.
Forgot to mention, I mic'd my bore it's .619, there's a rondy on Jul 1st weekend, I'll get some fixin's for shootin' shot.
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Cheers Teach.
 
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Just a name to help market something, like a White Lightning vent liner. I don't think the vent liner actually acts as a lightning rod, for example. I don't know of any Colonial fowlers made in the Carolinas but there were the "Carolina guns", English trade guns, with which you are very framiliar. Does not seem to be a relationship to them either. So I'm sticking with the idea that it's a marketing thing, and that is what American capitalism was built on. Oh, that and inventiveness and hard work.
 
I'll post a picture of what they called a "Carolina gun" in the 18th century when it's finished in a few days....
 
Well it is what Jackie Brown and Boobie Christian call the one they make so that is what i called it. I am not in to PC guns so don't know all the styles and such. I just wanted a reliable gun for hunting and the one i got from Bobby is just that.
 
Rebel said:
Well it is what Jackie Brown and Boobie Christian call the one they make so that is what i called it. I am not in to PC guns so don't know all the styles and such. I just wanted a reliable gun for hunting and the one i got from Bobby is just that.

No problemo.....call them what you want to. I was just a bit befuddled as to what you guys were actually carrying is all. So many terms for different guns these days....
Anyway, PC or not, sounds like you enjoy your gun, as you should!
 
Mike, here are acouple of pics of the gun we are talking about.
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Yep, those are both nice looking guns. :thumbsup:
I'll have a little history lesson on Carolina guns later this week.
 
There is a gun in Whiskers book on Carolina gun builders that has a somewhat similar stock architecture as the guns JB makes( it is near the back of the book) I think it is a late 18th century gun, rather plain, it or a gun like it may have been behind Jackies guns styles, which I think are post Rev War.
 

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