Hi guys, I'm new to this sight and to muzzleloading. I have found a lot of valuable advice on this forum which I really appreciate. I bought a Lyman 50cal. Deerstalker last year. I know it takes a lot of practice to become more accurate but I was hoping to shorten the learning curve by purchasing a rear peep sight. The sight is around $70. Do you guys like these types of sights and will it help with my accuracy? Thanks for any advice.
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Jeff,
There is a lot to be learned in shooting muzzleloaders and changing the rear sight to a peep is (IMHO) one of the LAST things to do. That, in and of itself, will not shorten the learning curve. Shoot your rifle a lot, develop a good load for it, become accustomed to your rifle's individualities under various weather conditions & etc. then worry about the rear sight. I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, just become as familiar with your rifle as possible first.
Muzzleloading is an adventure, enjoy the journey.
There is a lot to be learned in shooting muzzleloaders and changing the rear sight to a peep is (IMHO) one of the LAST things to do. That, in and of itself, will not shorten the learning curve. Shoot your rifle a lot, develop a good load for it, become accustomed to your rifle's individualities under various weather conditions & etc. then worry about the rear sight. I'm not trying to be a smarta$$, just become as familiar with your rifle as possible first.
Muzzleloading is an adventure, enjoy the journey.
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Yes, a peep will absolutly shrink your groups, and they are also one of the fastest sights to get on target. I have a T-C peep on a 54 cal caplock. At 25 yards it makes one ragged hole, at 50 they open up a bit, but I am using a large hole in the peep. I also have a peep on a 45-70 lever that has an adjustable aperture from Merit on it, can go down to .022 up to .155,
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Peep sites are GGGREAT! as Tony the Tiger used to say. At the ranges a Muzzle loader is used I like them more than a scope.
If your site has a screwed in apeture, I would recomened removing this and use the resulting large hole as a "Ghost" ring. This allows very rapid shooting even in low light conditions such as rainy days or early/late hunting.
For target shooting I use a six oclock hold on the bullseye, but when shooting deer, train yourself to shoot center of shoulder by painting white dot on front post and when a deer comes by put the white dot in the shoulder and make meat. We shoot as practiced and I cut a couple of deer low just behind the foreleg by using the 6 oclock on them! :shake:
As my eyes have grown older regular open sights have become almost impossible to use, and a scope ruins the lines of my muzzle loaders and lever actions I use for close range hunting. Peeps are the answere in my humble opinion!
Most important is just have fun and enjoy that ML!
Hank
If your site has a screwed in apeture, I would recomened removing this and use the resulting large hole as a "Ghost" ring. This allows very rapid shooting even in low light conditions such as rainy days or early/late hunting.
For target shooting I use a six oclock hold on the bullseye, but when shooting deer, train yourself to shoot center of shoulder by painting white dot on front post and when a deer comes by put the white dot in the shoulder and make meat. We shoot as practiced and I cut a couple of deer low just behind the foreleg by using the 6 oclock on them! :shake:
As my eyes have grown older regular open sights have become almost impossible to use, and a scope ruins the lines of my muzzle loaders and lever actions I use for close range hunting. Peeps are the answere in my humble opinion!
Most important is just have fun and enjoy that ML!
Hank
I have peeps on my cartridge guns, and on the T/C I use as my "deer rifle' but on all other muzzleloaders I don't, because most of the matches here in western North Carolina reject them. Since I shoot a Lyman Deerstalker, I urge you to not put peeps on it until it is as familiar to you as the .22 you had as a kid..Hank
IMHO, learn the rifle, work up the loads, learn to choot consistant groups with it & the primitive sights. When you are over 50 & the eyesight is fading & you need 3 cuts in one lens to see, then the peep could be nice.
But there is no Fast learning curve in ML'ing....... It takes Time & Dedication. The ones wanting fast & furious shoot modern rifles......
Take your time, relax & enjoy it..... Life is too short to rush......
But there is no Fast learning curve in ML'ing....... It takes Time & Dedication. The ones wanting fast & furious shoot modern rifles......
Take your time, relax & enjoy it..... Life is too short to rush......
Wheather the peep works for you will depend a lot on your eyes. I shoot a lot of long range with both ML and cartridge guns. I'm 75 and up to around 300 yds. i still like the open iron better
and I find them much faster to use. I hear younger shooters with better eyes saying the peep is more accurate and faster but since I regurlarly
beat them I think the open iron works for me. Past
300 I will use the peep. As for speed, look at the guns for dangerous game, all have open iron.For muzzleloading open iron
works for me, you have to find what works for you.
and I find them much faster to use. I hear younger shooters with better eyes saying the peep is more accurate and faster but since I regurlarly
beat them I think the open iron works for me. Past
300 I will use the peep. As for speed, look at the guns for dangerous game, all have open iron.For muzzleloading open iron
works for me, you have to find what works for you.
I think Birdog has the best advise, there may be a time for peeps when the eyse fade, untill then enjoy the sport as it was done in the past and rise to the challenge of a PRB and primitive filled-drifted sights mush of the lure of Ml hunting shooting is in the challend to take a step back in the type of technology we use you will not regret the pleasant experience as you drift back in time....
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I have a Deerstalker in percussion, and tried the peep sight. I went back to the open irons, because they are faster for me when jump shooting. I did file the front sight down some though, and that made a big difference. The sights on the Deerstalker are some of the best I have used.
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Jeff3374 said:
As Otter said changing the sights just for the sake of something different, or to try to shortcut the learning curve realy is the last thing you should be thinking of. Your choice of sights should be governed by your own eyes (what you can see most clearly and are easy to focus and easy to aquire the target with). Using a different sight will not make the rifle shoot any differently. the only way to become proficient with any rifle is to shoot it, a lot, and familiarize yourself with it.
Toomuch
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Shoot Flint
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