Chronographing loads

[ApprenticeBuilder]

I use an Oehler 35P for my work, yup even with my flintlocks, as was mentioned, anything you can do to keep patches and or deleterious material from coming into contact with the sensors is ideal.

I have had patches blow the reading.

A cardboard "shield" works well

 

[longcruise]

So it would be a pretty stupid idea for a body to mention it on here that he made chronographs professionally, I suppose?

Just wondering, hypothetically, y'know

I, for one, am pleased to be notified. :wink:

 

[Herb]

I also have an Oehler 35P which I wore out and had to send back to Oehler to be rebuilt. Many thousands of rounds through it. I set my screens the length of the cables, about 15 feet. My screen shades are all chipped from being hit by patches or overpowder wads. I had to armor my uprights with tin and have a block of wood in front of the sensors. I have never had a bad reading from patches.

 

[rodwha]

Not you too Herb! Is there no one left who doesn't live in the 21st century? What's this world coming to?

 

[ApprenticeBuilder]

Yes, many thousands of rounds thru the screens, have had to replace a support due to letting a friend shoot thru once, only once, kinda like loaning tools, never loan anything you cannot afford to lose.

 

[Herb]

Well, maybe 3/4 of them were from centerfire rifles from earlier years.

 

[smoothshooter]

4 years ago, I bought a reprint of a U. S. Army manual called " Small Arms 1855 " ( I think ) detailing very extensive ballistics and accuracy testing of most small arms then in use in the western world, with the idea of using the information gained to help develop new state of the art weapons for the Army.
One of the things I was impressed with was the accuracy of their velocity calculations using the Robbins ballistic pendulum as compared with modern testing with electronic equipment. Virtually no discrepancy whatever. In fact, the complex geometric and physics calculations found throughout the book are impressive
Accuracy, penetration testing, wind drift, and velocity calculations were done out to 1400 yards with some of the long guns, if I recall.
I highly recommended this book.

 

[bpd303]

Not you too Herb! Is there no one left who doesn't live in the 21st century? What's this world coming to?

I'm still using an old antique Chrony (with paper windows) so I guess I'm P/C. :grin:

 

[FishDFly]

"Not you too Herb! Is there no one left who doesn't live in the 21st century? What's this world coming to?"

And I thought this "WAS" a PC/HC pre-1865 Forum, guess things have changed.

Your father was correct.

 

[Herb]

OK, guys, you found me out. I may as well come clean. When I go to chronograph I drive a Buick instead of a mule. Here is my Bridger Hawken I built and I chronographed my loads used in string cutting at 100 yards. You can hold down Control on your keyboard and hit the plus sign to enlarge the screen to read the targets.


And I may as well confess I chrongraphed the loads I used in the .58 flint plains rifle to kill my mule deer last fall. This was so I would know how to hold out to as far as I would shoot at a deer. But I didn't need that at 40 yards....

 

[longcruise]

Herb, it's obvious that it's guys like you who have been dragging our sport down for dang near 82 years. :haha: Shame on you :nono:

 

[roundball]

OK, guys, you found me out. I may as well come clean. When I go to chronograph I drive a Buick instead of a mule.

Good one Herb !!
:grin:

So simple a 12 year old will grasp it.
But, it remains to be seen if prolific posters, keyboard hunters, bandwidth burners, and internet trolls will get it...
:hmm:

 

[George]

It has always been a puzzle to me why so many people object to the sturdy of the ballistics of our guns. Why does it matter that I learn how my guns work, so long as I use only HC guns, loads, clothes and gear while actually in the woods? If I leave the slide rule and chronograph in the car, how does the fact that I had previously used them to educate myself degrade my experience on the trail?

I’d really like to hear from those who object, to help me understand their take on the question.

Spence

 

[rodwha]

I know of one who refuses to and likely never will. It's the same story different thread with him...

 

[rodwha]

It certainly is, yet you talk about sissy loads filled with cream of wheat. Guess we need to delete a bunch of your posts, eh? They sure didn't use those pre 1900's...

Since you do not know my father, nor have I mentioned him to you I have no idea why you like to talk about him. Not really sure what sort of response you are looking for.

 

[Grumpa]

Spence, between you and Herb and a few others on here, you've got me going. I'm gonna get the chronograph out of the cellar and head to the range next week. I've never run my .54 Harpers Ferry over it.

And I apologize up front for communicating on this computer, but I just had another birthday, and I'm feeling like Time is becoming an ever more precious commodity; I don't feel like wasting it trying to carry on this discussion with goose quills, pokeberry ink, parchment and the Post Office.

I'll save those for love notes to the Wife. (Well, maybe not the Post Office - I can just hand them to her.)

 

[Jim C]

I do love my half stock Hawkens. That's a real nice looking rifle Herb. Nice job. Unusual looking wood. What kind is it?

 

[Jim C]

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

 

[Grumpa]

By the way, Herb, your two targets are impressive.
100 yards, iron sights, and 6 out of 10 shots either cut the string or made it shiver. And 82 year old eyes! :bow:

A classic example of "Aim small, miss small."

Do you mean to make us feel bad? :haha: :thumbsup: :hatsoff:

 

[Herb]

Nah, Grumpa, I shot them shots when I was younger, in December 2013, I was only 80 them. And, mtmanjim, the stock is maple, I don't know whether sugar or red, but I got a blank from Track of the Wolf and sawed it out with hand saws. I enlarged photos of the Bridger rifle taken when the Green River Rifle Works had it in 1975, and used Production Manager Greg Roberts original tracing and measurements of it, so was able to make an accurate stock.