Cleaning Rods & Ends

[deanscamaro]

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Okay, newbie has now become cheapy! I am an old smokeless, centerfire follower, who has a pretty good cleaning kit. I had a rude awakening today when I discovered everything BP has 10 x 32 threads, while the smokeless stuff has 8 x 32 threads. Nothing fits my cleaning kit. No wonder you can spend a lot on "things" in this hobby when they obsolete anything that might cross over. Does anybody know if there are adapters that would have 10 x 32 female on one end and 8 x 32 male end on the other (or even a bright idea on making one, other than having a machine shop make one for the cost of a new cleaning kit)?

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[Swampman]

Many of mine are 8X32. For years I thought 8X32 was standard, and only T/C used the wrong 10X32 thread size. Track of the Wolf sells both thread sizes, and adapters too I believe.

 

[deanscamaro]

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Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr. Lewis!!! I have all these BP websites on the computer, but am never sure where to look for something. That is what is so good about this forum. I looked at Track of the Wolf and found what I am looking for.
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[mloader40]

Check out RMC Sports on the links page under suppliers. They have adapters, cleaning rods and other accessories.
BPWRL

 

[bucktales]

+1 on RMC.

 

[roundball]

:cursing:
Okay, newbie has now become cheapy! I am an old smokeless, centerfire follower, who has a pretty good cleaning kit. I had a rude awakening today when I discovered everything BP has 10 x 32 threads, while the smokeless stuff has 8 x 32 threads. Nothing fits my cleaning kit. No wonder you can spend a lot on "things" in this hobby when they obsolete anything that might cross over. Does anybody know if there are adapters that would have 10 x 32 female on one end and 8 x 32 male end on the other (or even a bright idea on making one, other than having a machine shop make one for the cost of a new cleaning kit)?

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The reason everything has migrated to the larger 10/32" size is because it's bigger & stronger...8/32" is old school...everything is now manufactured in the larger stronger size...has been for years now...the first time you snap off a skinny little 8/32" adapter thread, you'll kick yourself for not using the stronger 10/32" system.

 

[Dphar]

:cursing:
Okay, newbie has now become cheapy! I am an old smokeless, centerfire follower, who has a pretty good cleaning kit. I had a rude awakening today when I discovered everything BP has 10 x 32 threads, while the smokeless stuff has 8 x 32 threads. Nothing fits my cleaning kit. No wonder you can spend a lot on "things" in this hobby when they obsolete anything that might cross over. Does anybody know if there are adapters that would have 10 x 32 female on one end and 8 x 32 male end on the other (or even a bright idea on making one, other than having a machine shop make one for the cost of a new cleaning kit)?

:hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :cursing:

The reason everything has migrated to the larger 10/32" size is because it's bigger & stronger...8/32" is old school...everything is now manufactured in the larger stronger size...has been for years now...the first time you snap off a skinny little 8/32" adapter thread, you'll kick yourself for not using the stronger 10/32" system.

8-32 is industry standard for everything but shotguns, including 50 caliber Browning Machine Gun rods. The ONLY place you find 10-32 is at dedicated ML suppliers and they generally carry 8-32 as well, I order 8-32 stuff from TOW all the time (think they have jags to 12 guage in 8-32. Since I started this before the 10-32 came out (SFAIK) I was always used 8-32 and buying a 10-32 rod tip is a waste of time since everything I have is 8 or shotgun (try finding a 10x32 to shotgun adapter at Wal-Mart).
Try pulling a 8-32 threaded steel screw in two with your bare hands... I doubt you can pull a brass one in two without mechanical advantage. If you break it off its operator error. I have never broken a steel threaded jag, brass will break off regardless if subjected to a side load and not screwed down with the jag tight on the rod end.

But this is a your mileage may vary thing. If you only use the stuff on MLs 10-32 is probably OK.

I use my dedicated cleaning rods for things besides MLs and consider 10-32 to be a unnecessary PITA.

Dan

 

[deanscamaro]

You and I have similar thinking. I need jags for a 50 caliber, wire brushes, etc. and I only spent an hour or two in Cabelas and Sportsman's Warehouse looking at BP stuff. Everything they had was 10 x 32. With a little more looking online I think I can find 8 x 32 stuff and not make my cleaning kit obsolete. I agree that if you tighten everything up when you put it together and use it, you shouldn't break it.

Thanks for your input.
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[roundball]

If you only use the stuff on MLs 10-32 is probably OK.

I use my dedicated cleaning rods for things besides MLs and consider 10-32 to be a unnecessary PITA.

All my muzzleloading equipment is bought and used on muzzleloaders.
I buy only 10/32" adapters because they're bigger and stronger...it's not a mileage thing, it's a fact.

If you chose to use the smaller 8/32" size ML components because you also want to use something on an 8/32" threaded centerfire rifle rod or something, then that's your mileage thing.

PS: Your example of "trying to pull apart an 8/32 adapter with bare hands" is bogus and you know it. :grin:

 

[Swampman]

I prefer the 8X32 myself. I have a lot of both, so I use an adapter for the 10X32 T/C cleaning accessories.

A ramrod with an 8x32 tip on one end, and a 10X32 tip on the other is a wonderful thing.