Coat of arms

[battman1]

I am wondering if People put their coat of arms on their horns?I'm thinking of doing mine.But don't want to if it will be out of place.

 

[redwing]

Few Americans of the day were elegiable for a Coat of Arms. I don't think that many Royal folks were forging a life on the frontier. This whole thing with the Coats Of Arms is a some what new endevor by folks selling these to anyone who has the same name as a Royal. Not likely :shake:

 

[battman1]

What do you mean by selling them.Not sure I follow you.

 

[blacksmithman64]

Not very common but it was done.The Coat of arms or "cipher" that is found on a lot of French and Indian War era horns is the cipher of the Georges.
I make a few customs for people doing the scottish thing, lot of cool coats of arms with those highlanders!I have a fairly good collection of coats of arms, if you don't know yours, just shoot me a PM and I'll see if I can help you out :thumbsup: Redwing means these moneygrubbers that will design "your" coat of arms just by sending them your name! :rotf:

 

[battman1]

Thanks for the info.I have one that's supposed to be right, I'm just looking a little deeper before I go putting it on something.

 

[thewho66]

If you are Scottish you should have 2 one is the clan crest for use by everyone in the clan. The other is only for the clan elder or leader, which is more elabrate than the standard clan crest. I had a horn made and put the standard clan crest on mine. Also British military units had crest that some people used on horns.

 

[cowpoke1955]

Besides those of England and Scotland, there were some from France, Spain and a few other countries. People from all walks of life ended up on the frontier, for one reason or another.

 

[pichou]

Colonial Americans were very fond of coats of arms, even though they weren't entitled. A guy named George Washington used the Washington arms on everything. Illegally, of course. :wink:

Silk embroideries were most common, but I wouldn't rule out arms on a horn.

Scottish clan crests are pretty much a Celtic Revival thing.

 

[brubincam]

----- I think my last name means turnip picker-- :rotf: :rotf: would my coat of arms be a turnip ? :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: -----

 

[pichou]

Could be worse... I know a guy whose family coat of arms is three dung forks. :shocked2:

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[brubincam]

-----I guess turnips ain't so bad---they used to grow wild in my dads fields and I put a little salt on and ate them like an apple-----

 

[davemcg]

Could be worse... I know a guy whose family coat of arms is three dung forks. :shocked2:

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Oh Cr@p! Display it proudly lads!
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[battman1]

Thanks everybody.Still debating on it.Its my moms side of the family so I wouldn't put the name under it but maybe just the latin phrase.The horn needs something and I don't want to put just anything on it.

 

[LaBonte]

FWIW - I've got a circa 1825 horn and it's got a lot of personal "stuff" scratched on it...

 

[battman1]

Got any pics of it?I'd love to see it.

 

[brubincam]

-----YES PICTURES----- :thumbsup:

 

[pichou]

That is a late date for scratched. Would LOVE to see the pics.

I'm really a nut for original horns.

 

[Robert Egler]

Coats of arms are individual. The idea that everyone with a certain family name is entitled to the "family" coat of arms is something invented by people who are selling fancy plaques and stuff with the "family" arms to whoever wants to buy them. A given coat of arms belongs to a single person. There are rules for how the arms are passed down generations, and how the arms are modified for use by the first son, second son, daughters, etc.

It is also incorrect that only royals had coats of arms. Many people had/have then, everyone down to the rank of knight and Baronet, and a lot of people below that.

English Coats of arms were, and still are, given by the College of Arms. There is an American College of Arms, but they just register arms claimed by people, they do not oficially check or award arms.

But, since we fought a whole war about breaking with the idea of the King telling us what to do, we don't have to pay attention to the English rules! :grin:

Also, we can all bear arms, the second amendment says so! :haha:

 

[2172]

squirrel tail, you got it right. The College of Arms, the one in London, will award arms to an American if he can claim English lineage. The family that was awarded the arms that people of my name claim actually died out in about 1790. I thought it might be fun to get those, or some other appropriate ones awarded to me. The York Herald was agreable, and went so far as to prepare my request,describing me as a "English gentleman born in America" and so on. When he told me the price, then about $9,000. I lost interest..I did put those arms on one of my horns..looks nice. When a buddy asked "are those your arms?" I said, 'well they belong to someone of my name, at least" and he understood and smiled..Hank