conicals for .58 Hawken

[Howie1968]

My new to me .58 Hawkes will be here tomorrow. It will have a 1-48 twist. What conical is available.? This will be used on giant size wild hogs. Shots will be 20-30 yards max

 

[bubba.50]

with a little work roundballs, Lee R.E.A.L.'s, and maxi-balls should all get the job done for ya. might even findone of numerous Minie balls that'd work.

 

[SDSmlf]

Believe Lee Improved Mini is around 480 grains. At 30 yards could load up until you are knocking plaque off your teeth.

Would suggest looking PRB. Increase powder charge until recoil tells you to stop. Accuracy at 30 yards will not be an issue. If you are concerned about penetration consider harder than pure lead balls. Have taken a few deer with pure lead 58 PRB and it has been lights out. Don't see hogs being an issue. Have taken wild Warthogs. A 58 cal PRB will handle any hog. A lesser caliber virtually eliminated the American Bison.

 

[BrownBear]

Conicals for 58's are falling by the wayside these days. LEE REAL's are an easy fix if you cast your own. Otherwise, check with Track of the Wolf and see what they offer. You'll see hollow based minies in their listing, but I'd stay clear of them if you plan on using more than about 80 grains of powder.

As for the odds and ends market, find them as you can, I'd sure keep your eyes open for any 58 caliber Hornady Great Plains conicals you can find. They're super accurate and deadly on game, but sadly out of production TC Maxi's are fine, but I got quicker kills with their Maxi Hunter. More to watch for.

I wouldn't have any qualms at all about using plain old round balls for pigs. They weigh around 100 grains more than a 50 cal ball, and even in pure lead they penetrate like crazy. Harden them up with an alloy along the lines of wheelweights and they'll whistle through about anything you poke with them.

As a "just fer instance," both of my Big Boars really seem to thrive on 100 grains of 3f or 110 grains of 2f with round balls. They'll take more 2f than that without any loss of accuracy, but you'll really start to notice it on the back end when you hit 120 grains of 2f. My more or less standard load with all conicals is 100 grains of 2f. You most certainly notice it when you light one off.

 

[Kapow]

Those pigs won't stand a chance! I have a secret stash of those Hornady 58 great Plains bullets. No way of getting them to you though. They were super deadly on hogs too!

 

[azmntman]

Thats what pop used on his buff! One, two three steps n down! I got a few box's left, gonna have to look into REAL

 

[Kapow]

Not a fan of the real bullets.

 

[BrownBear]

I have a secret stash of those Hornady 58 great Plains bullets.

Same here. No way to get them from me but to pry them from my cold dead hands. :wink:

REALS work just fine, but for best accuracy every gun I've tried wanted a lubed felt wad between powder and bullet. One thing with the REALS- Beacause the top driving band is so much larger (to engage the rifling), you need to use pure lead or you'll never get them started. Even with pure lead it takes a pretty enthusiastic whack on a short starter to get them moving down the bore.

 

[Howie1968]

Brown bear you started me using the felt wads on my .54s I swear by them

 

[stubshaft]

Lyman 575-213 or Lee 575 minie. 480gr and 530 grain respectively. Puts a hurt on hogs.

 

[Lonegun1894]

My new to me .58 Hawkes will be here tomorrow. It will have a 1-48 twist. What conical is available.? This will be used on giant size wild hogs. Shots will be 20-30 yards max

Mind if I ask how big we're talking? I use either .50 or .54, with a preference for the .54, but have never had a problem with any hog I have taken a shot at with either caliber and a PRB. Most of mine are in the 200-350# range though, if that makes a difference. I have also taken 300# hogs with a .22 LR pistol though, so I may have a few screws loose. And I mean under hunting conditions, not killing a meat hog that's in a pen.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Currently on the LEE Website they offer three .58 conical molds, and they don't offer any in their REAL bullets.

LD

 

[Rifleman1776]

giant size wild hogs

They must be really GIANT :shocked2: sized if you feel you need so much killing power for them. As said, a lesser caliber in prb is sufficient. Save yer shoulder and try a ball first.

 

[nkbj]

The old #577611 thick skirted minie might be one to try if you can find some.

 

[rushlake1]

Load it up and rattle your tooth loose.

 

[Kapow]

You could do a lot worse than using the good old roundball? I shot a hefty boar on the run once and he cartwheeled to his final resting place. I hit him in the ham and it came out his cheek!

I wonder if you could get a mold made for the Hornady great Plains bullets or even a 58 calibre version of the Lyman great Plains bullet? That is my favourite projectile by the way. Looking forward to hunting buffalo soon with it.

 

[nit wit]

Lee used to make a hollow base wad cutter, looked like a trash can, this would do the job.
Nit Wit

 

[nkbj]

Heh, you know I always wanted to figure out how to load that thing backwards and shoot a melon with it.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

You could do a lot worse than using the good old roundball?

Actually, yes you can do very very much worse.

An international expert on harvesting large, Dangerous game, James Forsyth, wrote a book in 1867, titled The Sporting Rifle and Its Projectiles. The fellow for which Forsyth Rifling is named, he did not like the Minnie ball for dangerous game, and far preferred the patched, round ball. His practical experience showed that the patched round ball outperformed the Minnie.

LD

 

[M. De Land]

This is the .58 maxi I lathe bored from a used mold in the cupboard.
It weighs 640 grains and is very accurate to the 100 yards tested.
The accuracy load is 150 grains of 2F Goex but one needs a very thick PAST shoulder pad to tame it down.
The recoil is BRISK and the Chronograph read 1400 FPS.
I was getting and honest four inch group at 100 yards until I quit, I couldn't stand to shoot it any more.