Cook without vessel

[wrichi]

Two small and Simple ideas
Want to boil eggs without a vessel? Mix mud with water, cover the eggs with mud and leaves.now place them over fire.
Want to bake a small fish in river banks? Cover the fish with leaves, tie with some thing.dig a bit in the sand, place it inside the shallow pit and cover with sand.now put fire over the pit.

 

[tenngun]

Skin a rabbit, cut the meat in to small pieces. Force tthe skin in to a bag or cup like shape. Put the meat and water in to the hide and suspend hair side out over a fire. The hair will burn off and stink for a miniut. The water will boil and cut a pot of boiled meat or if you add some veggies a bit of soup/stew.

 

[Woods Dweller]

I have taken a stick and making a long skinny point on the stick, Then, poking a small hole on both end of egg's . Then slide egg onto stick and slow roast egg. :hatsoff:

 

[Woods Dweller]

Bird in mud, I have shot Quail Gut them, wrap bird with feathers on in mud then place bird in bed of colas for about 30 min or so, turning so often. The mud dried around the bird, when I pulled the mud off the feathers come off with the mud, and the bird cooked. :hatsoff:

 

[Sean Gadhar]

This seems like a topic tailored for me

I get mud & leaves allover everything while I'm camping anyway, :idunno: might as well use it to cook with. :rotf:

I am going to have to try some of this...again I did try it as a boy but I think I used gray/black creek bottom silt rather then mud

I can still smell it 30+ years later all the rotted material in the silt slow roasting over the fire......yum :barf:

Leaves? do you have to experiment? Aspen leaves are abundant here, but have quit a smell to them. I'm not sure I would want to impart that smell into my food. I'm guessing poison Ivy is right out... :hmm: unless that one brother-in-law came along uninvited :wink:

 

[Woods Dweller]

Closer to clay than mud. Not slug.

 

[Alden]

Gut them, wrap bird with feathers on in mud then place bird in bed of colas for about 30 min or so, turning so often.

Coke, Pepsi or, down there, RC!?

 

[George]

The Native Americans figured this out long ago. Hidatsa boys on horse herd duty killed cowbirds and gophers with their bows and roasted them for lunch. Described by Wolf Chief:

"First we roasted the birds. A sharpened stick was thrust into the flesh at the vent and I held the bird over the fire with this stick, until it was roasted. The entrails were not drawn, neither were the feathers plucked.
"When roasted, I broke the bird open and threw the entrails away. I plucked out the wing feathers and stumps of the smaller feathers with my fingers and threw them away also. I ate the bird, biting the flesh off with my teeth; I did not pull it off with my fingers”¦.."

"Then we roasted gophers. First we opened the gophers and drew out the entrails with our fingers. The lips of the opening made in the carcass of the gopher for the purpose of removing the entrails, were now skewered together by a spit thrust in near the tail”¦..The carcass was held in the fire until the hair was singed, when it was taken out and scraped with a stick to remove the charred hair. It was then held about five inches from the fire, being turned now with one side, now with the other, toward the fire. The spit was held in the hand."

I think that gopher method would work great with squirrels, but we are probably too finicky to try that, aren't we? :grin:

Spence

 

[Billnpatti]

It is very aparent to me that the Indians had vastly different tastes then we do. I can't imagine what the birds would taste like cooked in this manner. Thrusting a stick into the vent of a bird would puncture the innerds allowing the meat to be marinaded in bird feces and bile from the inside and the burning feathers from the outside. Add to that, the fact that they may not have taken the time to cook the bird or other critter slowly enough for the inside meat to be thoroughly cooked when the outside was done. In the case of other furry critters, cooking with the innerds still in them would release not only the feces but bile and urine as well. Add to that the flavor of burned hair on the outside. Talk about tasty!!!

I once read about the local Indians eating Mesquite beans that were ground and cooked into a porrage. I was curious and one day I gathered a bunch of Mesquite beans, shelled them out, ground them up and cooked up a small portion of Mesquite porrage. It may be nourishing but man, you have got to be hungry to eat that stuff. It tasted horrible.

Some of the things that the Indians ate are quite good but some of it is not. At least according to the tastes of modern man they are not good. No doubt they were nourishing but I guess you had to be raised eating those things to find them tasty. A small animal or bird unskinned and ungutted with a stick thrust into its vent and roasted whole over a fire??? :hmm: No thanks, you can have my share.....unless I am nearing death from starvation. That could possibly improve the flavor enough to get it down. :haha:

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Thats why its always good to carry a small bottle of tabasco sauce with you at all times. You may never know. :haha:

 

[sidelock]

Is metal foil out?????? I used to PLANK fish and other game. Sometimes I discarded the game and ate the board.

 

[longshot47]

Cut-throat trout, cleaned, placed upon a grid of green sticks and slow roasted over a low fire.
Pig-out :thumbsup:

 

[Billnpatti]

Thats why its always good to carry a small bottle of tabasco sauce with you at all times. You may never know. :haha:

I do like Tabasco but I much prefer Sriracha Sauce. But a bottle big enough to overcome the taste of urine, bile, feces and burned hair or feathers would be a heavy load to carry. :haha:

 

[Grizzly Adams]

The sad truth. :rotf: Sriracha is pretty good stuff, I will admit. Probably has better bile masking qualities too. :haha:

As for cooking without a vessel, here's an idea for boiling water to render it safe for consumption. If you have a piece of leather, an at least somewhat watertight hat, or something of that nature, fill it with water and put some rocks (not river rocks, as they may explode due to having water trapped in them) in a fire for a while. Then take the super hot rocks and drop them into the water until it boils. Voila.