CVA .32 cal. Pioneer pistol ?

[BGRooster1]

Is this pistol basically the same as the Traditions Crockett pistol? I mean mechanically not cosmetically as they have a bit different look . I see Traditions has a pioneer in .45 .

 

[BGRooster1]

This must be a rare pistol .

 

[necchi]

Tuff call,
I can only guess as I've never had one, but Traditions picked up all of the CVA stuff,,

The trouble comes about with the age or decade it was made.
The Spanish makers seemed to use different lock shapes through the years. Not only did the lock plate shape change in minor ways but where they placed the screws that hold the lock in the stock changed.

Here's current stuff from the Possible shop you can use as comparison; http://possibleshop.com/pistol-kit.html

 

[Don]

Just saw one on a gun auction site. Never seen one before so they must have been made for a short period and discontinued.

Don

 

[zimmerstutzen]

CVA sold a lot of models on a limited basis. They had some models that I doubt were ever included in the catalogues and some in the catalogues that few have ever seen.

They sold a Zouave reproduction, ONE year. I don't know of anyone that ever saw one in person.

The prospector pistol. They also had a hawken pistol, which is uncommon.

Right now Ardessa, the Spanish Armory that made much of CVA's later muzzleloaders and makes the Traditions muzzleloaders offers an underhammer pistol. Traditions doesn't sell the underhammers.

From what I remember of the 32 CVA pistol, it had the usual cheap 2nd style percussion lock with no fly or bridle and a stock that was slightly modified from the Kentucky pistol. the other parts were straight from the Kentucky pistol, trigger and guard, sights.

I also read somewhere that CVA sold a few really high end Siber pistols, from Germany I think.

There are four or five percussion lock styles throughout all of CVA muzzleloader pistols and rifles. The second style was used on most of them. From the outside it looks identical to the locks used on the frontier rifle, but the interior is different slightly. I seem to recall that the same main spring was used for all the locks. The fist style lock had no sear adjustment screw and was used with a breech bolster. The second style was a Maislin style lock plate used with a drum and nipple, but only had a sear adjusting screw. the third style was the maislin lock plate for the drum and nipple, but it had a fly and bridle in the lock. The hawkens and mountain rifles had an even better lock.

 

[BGRooster1]

Thanks for the responses . I became curious about this pistol after seeing the one on the auction site. To bad the starting price is at least twice what it is worth.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

Worth is relative
There is a growing group of repro collectors.
Value depends on the scarcety
The cva 32 pistol is uncommon.

 

[BGRooster1]

Yes it is relative and since I am a shooter and not a collector . It is not worth the price .