CVA 3rd model dragoon

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Old Charlie

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I just got a CVA 3rd model dragoon. It is still in the box it came in. It has ASM Black powder only. under the barrel. I am thinking this is Ami-san marco.
Anyone know any thing about this gun? I think it has been around a while. Altho it is like new.
Old Charlie
 
Thats intresting and funny I had a 49 Wells Fargo dropped off on me today same thing (the 4" barrel and no rammer ck my pics of "guns we/I wish we could get for pics) 140 for a kit I think it ran. Never knew CVA played with such stuff. Fred :hatsoff:
 
What do you want to know?

In general, CVA had quite a few models made for them by ASM. CVA also sold brass frame ASM's - '49, '51, '60 Colts, '58 Remington .44 and a little spur trigger .31 Remington.

Can't remember how long CVA sold revolvers, but it has been maybe a dozen or more years since they stopped. Hopefully someone else will chime in.

Approximately in the mid-1990's EMF Company sold ASM's at The Big Reno Gun Show. At that time for $20 more you could get ASM's marked with a Colt barrel address and usually a Colt marked cylinder.

An ASM Dragoon (Not CVA marked) I have has the Colt marked barrel and a Tucker & Sherard (sp?) style cylinder with the big Texas star on it. Have seen several of these.
 
I have a CVA Walker that was proofed in 1967 and a CVA 3rd Model Dragoon that was proofed in 1976.
The Walker is stamped MARCO and the Dragoon is stamped ASM.

The Dragoon is in like new condition and the Walker is in equally good condition.
I would say the Walker is in "like new condition" except for the modification I made to it.
Wanting a gun that was as close to an original as it could be I removed the bluing from the cylinder.
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By the way, the 3rd Model Dragoon was fully blued so don't do what I did to the Walker to it. :)

For those interested, CVA imported a number of revolvers. The "Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Values says the models were discontinued on the following dates:

WALKER; 1996
3RD MODEL DRAGOON; 1994
1849 POCKET WELLS FARGO 1994
1851 NAVY; 1996
POCKET POLICE; 1996
1860 ARMY; 1996
1861 NAVY; NO DATE GIVEN
1851 NAVY/1851 SHERIFF'S MODEL; 1994
1858 REMINGTON; NO DATE GIVEN
1858 REMINGTON BISON; NO DATE GIVEN
NEW MODEL REMINGTON POCKET; 1989
1858 REMINGTON TARGET; NO DATE GIVEN
OFFICER AND THE GENTLEMAN: matched set .44 cal. perc, 1858 Rem. Army and .31 cal perc. New Model Remington Pocket heavily engraved in rosewood presentation; Disc 1994

As you can see, CVA was a large part of our sport for years.
While their Spanish rifles and single shot pistols leave a bit to be desired, I believe all of their revolvers came from Italy and are well made.
Of course some of them aren't exactly historical but they would be worth owning.
Now, if I could only find out where some of those models that appear above are at I could spend a small fortune expanding my collection.
 
Yes it was made by Armi San Marco. I bought one in the mid 80s and it was a tight and well made revolver. However it had a problem in that the chambers were several thousands less in diameter than the groove depth in the barrel. So, no matter what size ball I used, the chambers squeezed them down so that they did not make full bore contact, hence mediocre accuracy. I was a poor Army Lt at the time and the only recourse was to have each chamber reamed out to the right size, which I could not afford. Folks who did that got great accuracy from them. I sold it and moved on to another project.
 
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