CVA Hawkins 50 cal

[warhawk77]

I found a CVA hawkins 50 cal muzzleloader at a local pawn shop but not sure if its a good deal or not. The rifle looks to be in very nice condition barrel looks clean no rust inside. Some discoloring around the nipple maybe some old rust that got cleaned up. The wood looks like its new so this hasn't been a beat around gun guessing sitting in a closet.

I will be using it at the range as I am not a hunter (could be if I had more free time) but something cool for the kids to learn on and hang on the wall before prices get stupid on BP also.

They are asking $159 and I'm thinking $125 sounds good.

 

[Don]

Still a good deal at $159 but get it for less if you can.

Don

 

[Rusty_Nail]

I dont have a Hawken, but I have a CVA Frontier and Mt. Rifle, and both shoot nice for me. And the price @ $159.00 sounds reasonable for the condition you speak. $125.00... even better!

The only issue is parts. They are not easy to come by. But if it is a lock issue in the future, L&R makes a pretty nice drop in (RPL) lock for CVAs, as well as TC and Traditions.

 

[RADeO]

I found a CVA hawkins 50 cal muzzleloader at a local pawn shop but not sure if its a good deal or not. The rifle looks to be in very nice condition barrel looks clean no rust inside. Some discoloring around the nipple maybe some old rust that got cleaned up. The wood looks like its new so this hasn't been a beat around gun guessing sitting in a closet.

I will be using it at the range as I am not a hunter (could be if I had more free time) but something cool for the kids to learn on and hang on the wall before prices get stupid on BP also.

They are asking $159 and I'm thinking $125 sounds good.

See if they will allow you to run a clean patch down the barrel to check for any roughness. Even if a little fine rust shows up on the patch, use it as an additional bargaining chip to reduce the price. It can be easily removed later with a green Scotchbrite pad. If the bore is OK (no pitting), make the deal. The asking price and your offer are only $34 apart. I believe anything between would be reasonable (unless the seller really wants to get rid of it and insists on taking no more than $100). :rotf: :rotf:

Good luck, and let us know how you made out. :thumbsup:

 

[russecv58]

Still a good deal at $159 but get it for less if you can.

Don

+1 :thumbsup:

 

[izzyjoe]

I'm sure you know this, but make sure it is'nt loaded. If it is that can used to lower the price also. I've bought a few real cheap that way.

 

[Billnpatti]

Sounds like a decent gun but have you thoroughly inspected the lock to be sure that it will stay on half cock and full cock. Be sure that it will fire when you pull the trigger and not hang on half cock. You will need to put something on the nipple to protect it when you pull the trigger on the full cock position to protect the nipple. If all is well, and you can get it for $125, you are stealing it. Grab it and run. :hatsoff:

Why do I never find those deals in pawn shops in this area? :idunno: You lucky duck!! :applause: :thumbsup:

 

[swathdiver]

The only issue is parts. They are not easy to come by.

Deer Creek Products has plenty of original CVA parts. Order CVA parts from them all the time. Get it and enjoy! Ohh and use real BP!

 

[warhawk77]

Thanks everyone I am going back right after work today and see if I can pick it up.

I carry a flash light with me and I looked down the barrel it was clean all the way no rust and I didn't see any pitting but it was a quick look. Didn't think about it being loaded when I was looking down the barrel don't tell my wife.

I ran the hammer back to half cock but I didn't think to try and fire it. I could put a cloth over the nipple and try it.


I will update tonight how my luck goes.

 

[warhawk77]

Passed on the rifle. He wouldn't move on the price and my gut said to wait.

I will go back in a week or so and see what he says then. I bought some cap and ball pistols from them a week or so ago and they had sit there for months.

 

[chazz1975]

I just saw a CVA hawken in my LGS and they wanted $250 for it firm. It looked new. I did not have a light with me to pass down the bore, but the exterior looked like it had never been shot or for that much handled. The stock looked a bit darker and more red than typical CVA Hawkens. If this was a kit gun, someone put a heck of a lot of time and work on it.

 

[warhawk77]

Anyone know how close the cva to the true hawken rifle? Thinking maybe something to hang on the wall also.

 

[necchi]

Not close at all to an original.
All the factory made guns that use the name Hawken to designate their gun is just a 1970's marketing ploy that's hung on,,

All you have to do is google Original Hawken rifle and spend a short time reading.

 

[George T.]

I would jump on it! I had one new and the barrel was rough with chatter marks and it out shot every other rifle I owned. I should have kept it. Geo. T.

 

[warhawk77]

I did read up on the history of the Hawken rifle and how they made each gun by hand.

I know they will never be mistaken for a real hawken rifle.

 

[warhawk77]

I'm going to think about it over the weekend like i said something in my gut said to wait.

 

[cynthialee]

I'm going to think about it over the weekend like i said something in my gut said to wait.

Always follow the gut. It has never let me down and the few times I didn't listen to that gut feeling it has burned me good.

 

[Ron_T.]

I've got two older CVA Hawken rifles... both are .50 caliber.

One has a 28" barrel and is called a "Gamester-Hawken"... and I designed it my "accuracy/match rifle" and the other has a 24" barrel is called a "Hunter-Hawken Carbine" which I designed my "deer hunting rifle". Both rifle's barrels indicate the rifles were made in Spain.

Both rifles are very accurate... and both rifles "like" a target load of 47 grains of Swiss FFFg and my 24" barreled rifle is also very accurate with 70 grains of Swiss FFFg as a hunting load. Since I limit my shots to 75 yards or less, this load gets the job done using a round, patched ball.

Both rifles had very heavy hammer springs which I had a very experienced, local black-powder gunsmith who works in the gun repair shop at Friendship lighten up the spring tension a bit... and I'm very pleased with both CVA rifles.

If the rifle at which you are looking has a good bore and is in the condition you indicated, I worked at a pawn shop for about 5 years, so I'd suggest you offer the pawn shop "$150 out-the-door" meaning (in pawn shop language) including sales tax... i.e., the total price.

If they accepted your offer, then if your State's sales tax is 7% like it is in my State, you'd be paying about $140 + sales tax for the rifle. That's a pretty good deal for both the pawn shop AND you... and most important of all, the rifle is worth that price!


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.