cva vs traditions
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The older CVA's and Traditions were/are made in the same plant in Spain! Quality is the same and most lock parts are interchangeable. The exception is the older CVA mountain rifle with the made in USA barrels. They were/are a top notch rifle. Even though their locks were Spainish they were the best quality spainish locks I have worked on! :idunno:
Both Traditions and CVA's quality over the years has gotten better. CVA makes their own now but they have gotten out of the tradition ML business not to long ago so there may be a few new ones floating around. I don't know who does traditions now but like I said their quality has improved allot over the years and I would not hesitate to get one. In fact I can't think of any manufacturer that makes a bad ML product currently.
I bought a Traditions Trapper pistol.
I would not hesitate to buy a new rifle. My Trappers is very nicely done for a lower end gun.
The Gun Works in Oregon carries them and parts for them. Joe and Suzi are great people.
Have fun!
I would not hesitate to buy a new rifle. My Trappers is very nicely done for a lower end gun.
The Gun Works in Oregon carries them and parts for them. Joe and Suzi are great people.
Have fun!
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The CVA 32 cal Squirrel guns from about 1981, were darn good little guns. They had double set triggers. (Some one visiting my house during my absence decided they needed my CVA Squirrel gun more than I did) CVA later sold a small caliber gun based on the single trigger bobcat. I saw ads for a 36 cal. but the mail order house advertising them was sold out.
The Traditions Crocket is not like the old CVA Squirrel gun. The Traditions Crockett is a bit more adult sized than the old CVA offering.
CVA's older Squirrel gun comes up on the on-line auctions and sells for 2 to 3 times the 1981 new price.
TC sold a few small caliber side locks, but they are rare and command a premium price.
Rather then spend $250 to $400 for a used or new gun, many guys opt for a drop in barrel for an existing gun, even if they have to make it themselves. I am working on some drop in barrels for my nephew's bob cat right now. One will be a 36 and another will be a 50 cal smooth bore barrel. I already have the 1/2 inch punches and plug cutters to cut out wads. That way he will be set for hunting anything all season long.
The Traditions Crocket is not like the old CVA Squirrel gun. The Traditions Crockett is a bit more adult sized than the old CVA offering.
CVA's older Squirrel gun comes up on the on-line auctions and sells for 2 to 3 times the 1981 new price.
TC sold a few small caliber side locks, but they are rare and command a premium price.
Rather then spend $250 to $400 for a used or new gun, many guys opt for a drop in barrel for an existing gun, even if they have to make it themselves. I am working on some drop in barrels for my nephew's bob cat right now. One will be a 36 and another will be a 50 cal smooth bore barrel. I already have the 1/2 inch punches and plug cutters to cut out wads. That way he will be set for hunting anything all season long.
I have a Traditions Springfield Hawken. I bought it as Bass Pro Shops a few years back for $135. It is a .50 cal. Upon reading a few reviews, these rifles got mixed reviews regarding quality and I can only speak to my experience, but.....my rifle is excellent. The lock is smooth. The fit and finish is excellent. It actually has a nice grade of wood and maybe most importantly, the gun can be very accurate. Obviously, this last part depends on finding the load the gun likes and in my case, I have found a good load but I am always trying to improve it. So, my experience has been very good. I doubt that I will ever get rid of this rifle. The bad news is that it has to share time in the stable with my new re-bored .58 cal Renegade.
Jeff
Jeff
themarmot said:
I decided I wanted one. My Cabela's had one on the rack so I went to the store to buy it. After I played around with it for a few minutes, I decided to pass on it. It was pretty crude. Maybe it would work OK but I would have to completely redo it. So with that thought in mind I may buy a kit and do it myself.
This is another of the reasons I consider any Traditions or CVA as a kit gun. Assembled or not.
I picked up a new in box never fired CVA Bobcat from a friend recently for fifty bucks. Good little sidelock after I disassembled the lock assembly and cleaned up the action, it would not consistently bust a cap. Found it needed the lockplate to be worked out where the plate had been stamped. After working on it with a fine file it shoots as smooth as butter. Also installed a set of Wilson Firesights, it's very accurate. Point being these lower priced firearms can be good but you may need to massage them a little to make them run right.
I have the Traditions Crockett 32 cal. It is a fine shooter. Most say 20grns of powder for a 32 but this one shoots best with 15grns. Took a gray and missed one yesterday. It's a nice slim lined gun that you will be happy to carry.
i bought a cva 36 cal rifle this weekend at the gun show.but i cant find cva anywhere on the gun.it says "ardesa spain 36 cal black powder only" and "700 kp/cm 2 f2" and a serial # thats all. 26" octagon barrrel. anybody know if its a cva?
Ardesa is a town and manufacture plant.
CVA did indeed purchase many guns from Ardesa for re-sale as CVA
The early ones only said Ardesa. Many of the ones marked Ardesa where better made than ones after CVA put orders with cost cutting shortcuts and put their stamp on'm.
Don't fret, an outfit in Indiana called Deer Creek Products,
' has been CVA custom shop for decades and still have all right for parts supply and warrenty work for CVA. They'er like the USA supply house for Spanish made trad ml's.
Many of the CVA and Traditions Rifle parts are interchangable too.
CVA did indeed purchase many guns from Ardesa for re-sale as CVA
The early ones only said Ardesa. Many of the ones marked Ardesa where better made than ones after CVA put orders with cost cutting shortcuts and put their stamp on'm.
Don't fret, an outfit in Indiana called Deer Creek Products,
' has been CVA custom shop for decades and still have all right for parts supply and warrenty work for CVA. They'er like the USA supply house for Spanish made trad ml's.
Many of the CVA and Traditions Rifle parts are interchangable too.
hanshi
Cannon
Those Crocketts are truly fine little rifles. They're accurate to a fault, easy toting and reliable as a sunrise. I've owned a Crockett for 12 years and a DeerHunter .50 for way over 20 years and don't want to part with ether of them. Both have served well in the hunting woods. :thumbsup:
