I've been shooting muzzleloaders for several years but always with Pyrodex or AP powder. Finally, found some black powder 2f, and had a lot of fun. I have a 50 cal rifle and a 12ga double barrel shotgun. Loaded the shotgun up using the info from stumpkiller with good results. Killed 2 tuna cans 1 spam can and several clay pidgeons. Next week I plan on using that same load on squirrels. Anyway had a good day shooting, now I better get to cleaning. Thanks for all the info I have received over the years reading everyones post.