I guess I'm the only one that looks at the ramrod after loading. I know how much of the rod should be left out of the barrel after loading. That tells me the ball is all the way down,forgot powder , forgot the ball,and may have over done it. I use to have a mark on the rod that i would look at after loading, that told me it was ok to shoot.There is always the (x) factor and murphy's law to contend with. Only a fool purposely tries to overload a muzzleloader. IMHO